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  1. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Good stuff, glad to get a new date for it. Think it will be stuck to this time.
  2. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    It is quite odd how I’m ok with the idea of them doing songs of surrender promo shows without Larry (tv appearances, a one off type gig) but not really ok with vegas. I think it feels like with vegas they’d need to actually replace Larry with another drummer but with SOS being stripped back it...
  3. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Well I will use the agree to disagree comment if disagreements seem to be going on too long or derailing a thread. There’s obviously still a bit of a difference of opinion between me and headache about the acceptance of opposing views, perhaps I just need to agree to disagree with that point...
  4. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    And sometimes when an overwhelming majority thinks you’re wrong you can still be right or the point being discussed might not be able to be definitively proven as right or wrong so it should be accepted as a differing point of view and that’s it. So yes you do need to accept a different point of...
  5. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Well I’m opening a can of worms here but what do you think I should change? I’ll concede maybe I’ve gone about it in an argumentative way at times but understanding that our opinion is just that, only an opinion, is too important a principle for me to let go. I think if it doesn’t get called out...
  6. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Well we discovered what it is I want from people to change for me to even begin to consider changing my approach towards them. If people do start to be more respectable then they will get the same from me. I treat people how they treat me. But I understand that online things can be taken...
  7. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Back to the boring stuff again, just when we were getting somewhere.
  8. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    If people start being respectful and accepting of opposing views to their own they’ll get the same back from me. Disagreeing’s fine putting down other views isn’t.
  9. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    If people start being respectful and accepting of opposing views to their own they’ll get the same back from me. Disagreeing’s fine putting down other views isn’t.
  10. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    I know that you can’t have sensible discussions/debates with people when they don’t respect/accept opposing views or have to resort to sarcasm/snide remarks or patronising comments.
  11. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    The ball is in the court of the people posting on here that have to resort to snide remarks and sarcasm when they don’t agree with someone. It’s really easy, put a point of view across and accept alternative views respectfully without suggesting they’re wrong, really easy.
  12. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Well I’m happy to lessen everyone else’s experience in order for certain individuals to go through an education that when they believe something it doesn’t necessarily make it true and to accept other people’s views without putting them down. Happy to go round in circles, my patience is pretty...
  13. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Any quotes to back yourself up here or just talking BS?
  14. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Not a contrarian at all, their are plenty of opinions I have that are shared by the majority of people, but if I have a minority view I still share it and debate it because a minority opinion doesn’t make it a wrong one. I don’t mind if people disagree with me completely, couldn’t care less...
  15. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    I never said I was going to answer your question but since you’ve asked twice and seem keen for an answer I’ll give you it. I’m opinionated and don’t shy away from disagreeing with people, whilst others would let a fellow poster on here continuously put down other fans views and present their...
  16. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Why? Because some of the people on here have likely been members for years and have became used to having their voice heard above other more recent members instead of letting a conversation take place and accept opposing views. But if you want to have a sensible discussion with me then that...
  17. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    U2songs believe that the brand new album is at the same sort of stage SOE was at in late 2016 when they decided to work on that further. Bono had to recover from a serious operation at the start of 2017 and then there was the JT anniversary tour. I think the amount of work on SOE would have been...
  18. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Maybe once people learn to let others express their view without feeling the need to prove them wrong (without any proof ironically) then we can move on with some sensible discussions. As long as there are people out there who think how they interpret something is the only way of interpreting it...
  19. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    Even though I detect more than a hint of sarcasm it’s pretty much all opinion, that’s the point. If we can’t accept other points of view or talk like adults what’s the point of having online discussions or any sort of discussion?
  20. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    What words are there that mean the band are thinking of touring without him? It seems like you are doing the very thing you are accusing me of which is to interpret the words he used. You seem to be suggesting he wouldn’t ‘flit between thoughts’ as you put it, why would he not? Also do you think...
  21. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    There’s also a difference between saying we ‘think it won’t happen’ and ‘it won’t happen full stop end of discussion’. It’s a debate about the strength of the rumours and how to interpret the words. You see a clear link between the first part of Larry’s sentence and the next, I see it as him...
  22. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    I think it’s far from clear that the band are weighing up playing without Larry. So far from clear there’s more than a few people who think the complete opposite. You have a different view of things that’s all but fans aren’t just using what they want or don’t want to happen to shape their...
  23. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    I don’t think it’s really like that at all. People aren’t saying it can’t happen because of their emotions people are saying based on who this band are, 40+ years in the business and so much talk about the importance of the collective unit, that it would seem unlikely to happen, I don’t think it...
  24. L

    Songs of Songs, Books & Fat Puns - New Album Discussion #8

    I agree with that but I don’t think that’s a good enough reason to play the shows. I reckon there’s a lot of fans that would attend even though if given the decision to make they wouldn’t have the band playing without Larry.
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