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Dreadsox 12-06-2003 08:15 PM

John Kerry Officially Loses the Nomination by Dropping the F-Bomb
 
Way to act Presidential......I am wondering if you are being advised by members of this forum(THAT WAS A JOKE HAHAH PLEASE DO NOT TAKE IT THE WRONG WAY).

[Q]"I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything'? Sure. Did I expect George Bush to fuck it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did. [/Q]

Way to go John Kerry! I am so Proud to have you as my Senator. I may now vote for any candidate who runs against you when you run for Senate next time.

Oh this was in the Rolling Stone interview.https://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/43544.htm

Scarletwine 12-06-2003 08:37 PM

He was speaking to RS readers correct?

I don't see what the big F*****G deal is :wink:

Dreadsox 12-06-2003 08:38 PM

I actually had you in mind as his advisor.:wink:

Dreadsox 12-06-2003 08:41 PM

Here is the big deal [Q]Brookings Institution presidential scholar Stephen Hess said he can't recall another candidate attacking a president with X-rated language in a public interview. [/Q]

Scarletwine 12-06-2003 08:43 PM

LOL

I do kinda like him as a candidate, but I haven't made up my mind. Wes looked really good speaking at a school last week. And Dean handled Hardball very well. :shrug:

I really don't cuss a lot other than s**t. Kids & job

Scarletwine 12-06-2003 08:46 PM

He didn't call him a f***er. He used it as a verb.
Extreme times make for extreme measures.
Besides the times they are a changing.
Now I would use it a noun for sure.

Moonlit_Angel 12-06-2003 08:52 PM

Okay...why is the "f" word still such a big deal in society? There haven't been many people in this country who haven't heard it or used it at some point and time in their lives, it's nothing new, so for people to continue to be shocked by it is kinda silly.

Anywho...they should look at the word in the context it was used-like Scarletwine said, he wasn't describing Bush with that word, he wasn't intending to offend anybody with it...so let bygones be bygones.

Angela

Dreadsox 12-06-2003 09:13 PM

yep....times are indeed changing....Maybe I should try using it in my classroom and see if using it as a noun makes a difference. Will I have a job on Tuesday?

Scarletwine 12-06-2003 09:36 PM

I think the place of use does make a difference.
Obviously I don't think your classroom is appropriate anymore than my staff meetings. But I do hear it a ton on the job. Including by senior staff members in everyday conversation.

I also have to agree with Angela that it isn't seen as that big of deal anymore.

RS magazine is traditionally a little off-color and provocative. It would not be inappropriate in that media.

BVS 12-06-2003 09:47 PM

I think it gives him f@#king balls. Would I vote or not vote for him based on this? No.

I'm not sure which is worse, a president that would make up words or use curse words...

Dreadsox 12-06-2003 09:50 PM

I understand it is Rolling Stone.....I also know that Presidents swear....however...there is a time and a place....and this is unusual.

melon 12-06-2003 09:58 PM

I am now reminded why America is perceived as so conservative.

Melon

Dreadsox 12-06-2003 10:12 PM

I can't help it...it bothers me...:huh:

EDIT:

and I am known for dropping f-bombs......

Blacksword 12-06-2003 10:18 PM

Yup, Prime Minster Trudeau dropped an F-bomb in Parliament here in Canada back in the 70's. Caused a bit of a stir but nothing more. But then Trudeau could get away with pretty much anything in the golden years. But seriously Americans need to lighten up. I had to try hard not to laugh when I saw f*** referred to as "X-rated language". Personally I find the selection of words used as curses to be amusing. Why crude slang for the act of copulation or excriment should be taboo is beyond me. Also how f*** came to be used as a noun, verb, adjective and pretty much anything else is also something I find quite funny, though annoying when you have people who don't know how to say anything else.

anitram 12-06-2003 10:34 PM

I honestly don't see the big deal. There are bigger problems in this world than somebody's choice of four letter words. Who cares at the end of the day?

Didn't Dubya call somebody an asshole or something during his campaign? Or am I dreaming? Most of us use these words, some more than others, and I don't really blink an eye.

Definitely agree about the conservative America comments made above.

BAW 12-06-2003 10:37 PM

I don't consider it "X-rated language" as it was used in that interview. There are times and places where this word would not be appropriate but in this case...not such a big deal IMO :shrug:

TylerDurden 12-06-2003 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by melon
I am now reminded why America is perceived as so conservative.

Melon

Heh....

To compare, here in Australia the Labour party (Aussie Left/Democrat equivalent) just voted a guy called Mark Latham in as the guy to run against the Prime Minister, John Howard (as conservative as GW - more so in some areas) in our elections next year.

He is best known for calling Howard an "Arselicker" (in reference to his relationship with Bush) in an interview with a respected national news magazine.

Calling Howards government a "Conga line of suckholes" (as in, his Ministers suck up to him, he sucks up to Bush) and that was IN PARLIAMENT.

Calling our Federal Treasurer a "Big c*nt" IN PARLIAMENT.

Calling Bush "The most dangerous and incompetant US President in living memory" IN PARLIAMENT.



And in this country he's very, very popular and Howards team are a bit worried.

verte76 12-06-2003 11:39 PM

What a f:censored:king huge surprise. Now they're even. I recall GWB getting called on the carpet after referring to a journalist (I think, wasn't it?) as a "major league :censored:hole". The guy responded "I'm disappointed with the Governor's language".
Twenty-first century politics. I don't care. It doesn't change my vote.

Moonlit_Angel 12-07-2003 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar
I think it gives him f@#king balls. Would I vote or not vote for him based on this? No.
Exactly.

Quote:

Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar
I'm not sure which is worse, a president that would make up words or use curse words...
I'd say the first of the two, personally. At least this word is real, unlike "misunderestimated".

Anitram and Blacksword made excellent points, too.

Angela

Dreadsox 12-07-2003 01:53 AM

Times are a changing.....

Here is the challenge......

Show me another quote anywhere in AMERICAN history where a presidential candidate has attacked a sitting president and used profanity.


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