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U2Bama 11-05-2002 09:29 PM

Offensive/Sexist Comments By An Alabama Political Candidate?
 
From Today's BIRMINGHAM NEWS:

"Candidate A" and "Candidate B"asked voters Monday to elect them lieutenant governor because of their years of experience.

In the final day of a close campaign, "Candidate A" pointed to her term as state treasurer and said she knows government and works well with people.

"Frankly, I think another trait that is of value is being a female," "Candidate A" said when asked why people should elect her instead of "Candidate B" to be presiding officer of the state Senate.

"I think God gave women, the female gender, an extra little nurturing trait," "Candidate A" said. "That's because we were going to be caretakers of the family. I think government is caretaker of the people.

"That compassion and caring and wanting to do what's right with all members of the family will certainly be valuable in doing what's right with all members of that Senate," said "Candidate A", 64, who has two grown children.


Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on candidate A's comments from today's newspaper.

~U2Alabama

The Wanderer 11-05-2002 09:39 PM

could you imagine if a male candidate had said, "you know, men are naturally tougher and more decisive in decision-making, therefore I feal I am better qualified than my opponent"

of if a white candidate said, "you know, I am white and most Americans are white, so cleary I identify more with the American people than my [insert minority designation here] opponent"

Clinton's opponents should point out that they didn't let their dog get hit by a car, thus making them more sensitive to animals and the environment

Screaming Flower 11-05-2002 09:42 PM

i'll nurture her face.
 
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Originally posted by U2Bama
"I think God gave women, the female gender, an extra little nurturing trait," "Candidate A" said. "That's because we were going to be caretakers of the family. I think government is caretaker of the people.

"That compassion and caring and wanting to do what's right with all members of the family will certainly be valuable in doing what's right with all members of that Senate," said "Candidate A", 64, who has two grown children.

that's really lame.

Crzy4Bono 11-05-2002 10:56 PM

**GROAN**

U2Bama 11-05-2002 11:10 PM

She seems to have won the election by a large margin.

Angela Harlem 11-06-2002 12:41 AM

I dont think being female in any given scenario is something to be considered a virtue. Its just the way things are. Duh.
"I think God gave women, the female gender, an extra little nurturing trait," --blah. Whatever. Some women have it, some dont. Some men have it, some dont. Interesting statements to base your political career on? Who cares that she will love and treat her public like children and nurture them...does she have the balls to do the job?

Oops, I said balls...I will throw myself in front of the next semi driven by a feminist.

melon 11-06-2002 10:00 AM

Re: Offensive/Sexist Comments By An Alabama Political Candidate?
 
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Originally posted by U2Bama
"Frankly, I think another trait that is of value is being a female," "Candidate A" said when asked why people should elect her instead of "Candidate B" to be presiding officer of the state Senate.

"I think God gave women, the female gender, an extra little nurturing trait," "Candidate A" said. "That's because we were going to be caretakers of the family. I think government is caretaker of the people.

"That compassion and caring and wanting to do what's right with all members of the family will certainly be valuable in doing what's right with all members of that Senate," said "Candidate A", 64, who has two grown children.

They're attempting to play the religious right, who would actually be stupid enough to fall for this.

Melon

nbcrusader 11-06-2002 10:53 AM

Unfortunately, the reaction to such a statement will largely depend on whether there is a little "R" or a little "D" next to their name.

oliveu2cm 11-06-2002 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by Angela Harlem

Oops, I said balls...I will throw myself in front of the next semi driven by a feminist.

I consider myself a feminist, yet I don't drive a semi, burn my bra or agree with what this senator said.

:scratch: Stereotypes.. go figure. :|

Gina Marie 11-06-2002 11:44 AM

ugh......

We had a female Democratic candidate for Governor, who should have won :D, but anyway..as far as I know, she never made any statements like that.

But her opponent (a guy) did call her conduct in the last debate 'unbecoming' :rolleyes: :yuck:

Many people considered that to be very patronizing and chauvinist...I did

Hewson 11-06-2002 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Gina Marie

But her opponent (a guy) did call her conduct in the last debate 'unbecoming' :rolleyes: :yuck:

Of course her conduct in that debate was deplorable, and probably what cost her the election. Catcher's Mitt could certainly have picked a better word than "Unbecoming" of course, but it was curious that Shannon didn't mention it during the debate, but the next day while she campaigned with Hillary Clinton (who is not sensitive to animals, ask Buddy ;) ), it gets mentioned as a sexist remark.
I'm just sad Robert Reich lost in the primary...would have been fun to see him carrying a milk crate to the podium every time he had to make a speech.

Gina Marie 11-06-2002 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Hewson

I'm just sad Robert Reich lost in the primary...would have been fun to see him carrying a milk crate to the podium every time he had to make a speech.

Well, I have nothing to say about the merits (lack thereof :D) of Mitt Romney :yuck:..frankly I find most things about him to be 'unbecoming'..he reminds me of a Ken doll :p

Reich is shorter than even :bono: *runs away*

:tongue:

Hewson 11-06-2002 12:21 PM

That was the big problem with this election, you had most people choosing who was least offensive, basically deciding between the lesser of 2 evils.

garibaldo 11-06-2002 12:54 PM

Re: Re: Offensive/Sexist Comments By An Alabama Political Candidate?
 
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Originally posted by melon


They're attempting to play the religious right, who would actually be stupid enough to fall for this.

Melon

I don't think the "compassion and caring" and women are better than men line came from the religious right. That's right out of the left and its feminists and you know it. I don't think I've heard Jesse Helms speak about how women are superior...hmmmm...maybe I'm missing something.


The arguement is incredibly lame and plays out to the grrrl power types. Besides, every woman in politics is just like every man. They talk the same and act the same. They're just as petty (Shannon O'Brien is a great example) and mean-spirited. Party politics and values seems to be more of a defining factor.

When I hear someone boasting about how compassionate and caring they are, I hear "more welfare" and "endless social welfare programs".

daisybean 11-06-2002 02:56 PM

My question is, what were her stances on other issues? Yes, the whole idea of her being a woman makes her somehow more competant for a particular job is bull. Was this "nuturing of the state" the cornerstone of her campaign? Was her spin the fact that she was a woman? Or was she elected because of stances on other issues such as education, civil rights, etc....

MSU2mike 11-06-2002 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Gina Marie
ugh......

We had a female Democratic candidate for Governor, who should have won :D, but anyway..as far as I know, she never made any statements like that.

But her opponent (a guy) did call her conduct in the last debate 'unbecoming' :rolleyes: :yuck:

Many people considered that to be very patronizing and chauvinist...I did

Not that many people thought so, or Romney wouldn't have won. In fact, her and Hillary's crying about such a non-issue probably hurt her substantially in the election...that, and her general conduct leading to Romney's statement. Frankly, that was one of the most absurd tactics the Dems used in this election, trying to frame his use of "unbecoming" as a sexist remark. That's just stupid.

Gina Marie 11-06-2002 04:36 PM

No offense, and I have complete distaste for 'arguing' in FYM, but honestly, I think that's a bit sexist to say they were 'crying' about that.

I think that and the debate (s) were a small part of it. He did win by only 5 percent. People seem to have the perception that Romney the businessman and person who seems to claim he singlehandedly rescued the troubled Olympics = person who can turn around the economy in MA. I think that was the most important factor in his victory. We will just have to wait and see how effective he is.....

Angela Harlem 11-07-2002 01:19 AM

Olive, sorry if you found that offensive. None was intended. The pros and cons of femminism are a debate for another thread. But anyways, tongue in cheek if you like :) Its very un PC even if you swap the gender role imo.

melon 11-07-2002 07:02 AM

Meh...Massachusetts' Congress is 80% Democratic. Mitt Romney, just like Jane Swift, is irrelevant.

Melon

oliveu2cm 11-07-2002 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by Angela Harlem
Olive, sorry if you found that offensive. None was intended. The pros and cons of femminism are a debate for another thread. But anyways, tongue in cheek if you like :) Its very un PC even if you swap the gender role imo.
Thanks Angela. :) Yes, for another thread I agree- and we'd probably agree on the pros and cons, too. :)

Gina- even more reason I like ya, we vote the same! :p :mac:


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