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MrsSpringsteen 09-23-2020 01:02 PM

I don't understand this at all. Guess there is nothing to understand, other than the fact that our justice system is as fucked up as our country is.

BEAL 09-23-2020 01:11 PM

My assumption is that since her boyfriend shot first, striking an officer, that lethal force was justified. They're just saying maybe don't spray 500 rounds into the surrounding apartments.

It took over six months to even reach this point, so not surprising in the outcome

Irvine511 09-23-2020 01:15 PM

Is it awful to say that I’m mildly relieved because I expected no charges at all?

I really, really hope it’s calm tonight. Protest, please. But please don’t burn things.

And, yes, I am telling people how they should express their grief. Because we are living in a tinderbox right now.

MrsSpringsteen 09-23-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BEAL (Post 8343376)
My assumption is that since her boyfriend shot first, striking an officer, that lethal force was justified

Yes that's what it is. Plus the claims by the officers that they knocked and announced were corroborated by a witness who was in close proximity.

Of course now they're proposing reforms in Kentucky regarding how search warrants are executed.

DaveC 09-23-2020 01:32 PM

disgusting. a charge for firing recklessly into an apartment wall and zero charges for firing recklessly into a human being.

once again the law protects property and not people.

i wish i could say i was surprised.

MrsSpringsteen 09-23-2020 01:34 PM

Of course civil and criminal are two very different things. But let's remember that there was a 12 million dollar civil settlement paid to her family, that also included money for changes and reforms. So let's get real, justice and truth vs the law are often two very different things. And that goes well beyond the death of Breonna Taylor.

MrsSpringsteen 09-23-2020 01:48 PM

I hadn't even heard this before-the Kentucky Attorney General (he's African American) spoke at the Republican convention and praised Trump.

He said today that "mob" justice is not justice.
Gee Trump loves that word too.

DaveC 09-23-2020 02:08 PM

fuck the money. that doesn't come out of the pockets of the officers who shot a woman to death in her bed.

they recklessly murdered an innocent unarmed person with zero personal consequences at all.

i'm fucking furious.

MrsSpringsteen 09-23-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC (Post 8343383)
fuck the money. that doesn't come out of the pockets of the officers who shot a woman to death in her bed.

they recklessly murdered an innocent unarmed person with zero personal consequences at all.

i'm fucking furious.

I only mentioned the money because if they thought the cops did nothing wrong, why did they pay such a settlement and agree to reforms? Obviously I understand it doesn't come out of their pockets. I'm not mentioning the money in any way shape or form as being relevant to her murder. Her life was priceless.

Where is the transparency? Why can't the public see the warrant, the grand jury report? I wonder if Breonna's family has been allowed to.

MrsSpringsteen 09-23-2020 03:23 PM

"The most disrespected person in America is the black woman.
The most unprotected person in America is the black woman.
The most neglected person in America is the black woman."

Malcolm X 1962

Headache in a Suitcase 09-23-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen (Post 8343384)
I only mentioned the money because if they thought the cops did nothing wrong, why did they pay such a settlement and agree to reforms? Obviously I understand it doesn't come out of their pockets. I'm not mentioning the money in any way shape or form as being relevant to her murder. Her life was priceless.



Where is the transparency? Why can't the public see the warrant, the grand jury report? I wonder if Breonna's family has been allowed to.

Because $12 million is significantly less than what they'd have to pay if the family won in court.

MrsSpringsteen 09-24-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase (Post 8343394)
Because $12 million is significantly less than what they'd have to pay if the family won in court.

Yes of course that's true. But that's extremely rare, for a civil settlement to be paid before criminal charges are even filed or not filed.

Headache in a Suitcase 09-24-2020 10:23 AM

I have to imagine they understood that criminal charges were going to be incredibly difficult in a southern state where the first shot wasn't fired by police.

MrsSpringsteen 10-07-2020 06:11 PM

Chauvin, murderer of George Floyd, out on bond for a million dollar bail today. Maybe the Proud Boys paid.

dazzledbylight 10-08-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen (Post 8345227)
Chauvin, murderer of George Floyd, out on bond for a million dollar bail today. Maybe the Proud Boys paid.

That made me furuius.

MrsSpringsteen 10-21-2020 09:58 AM

:eyebrow:

Yahoo News
Breonna Taylor grand juror speaks out, says prosecutors steered them away from homicide charges

October 20, 2020, 4:41 pm

On the same day a judge granted a grand juror in the Breonna Taylor police-shooting case the right to speak about the deliberations, the juror, who is still anonymous, confirmed what Taylor’s family and supporters suspected: that homicide charges against the officers involved in the raid on Taylor’s apartment were never presented to them by Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron.

The ruling Tuesday by Jefferson County Circuit Judge Annie O’Connell held that any grand juror in the case who “wishes to identify themselves as a participant in the grand jury proceedings” is allowed to do so, and said the disclosure of the proceedings is in the public interest. Cameron, who took over the case from local prosecutors, had argued against allowing the juror to talk about the proceedings, citing years of precedent.

O’Connell’s decision was followed by a statement issued by Kevin Glogower, the attorney for the juror, asserting that the grand jury was dissuaded from pursuing homicide charges for the three officers involved in the March 13 raid on Taylor’s Louisville, Ky., apartment that ended in her death.


“The grand jury was not presented any charges other than the three wanton endangerment charges against Detective [Brett] Hankison,” the juror said in the written statement from Glogower’s office, which was shared by Vice News. “The grand jury did not have homicide offenses explained to them. The grand jury never heard anything about those laws. Self defense or justification was never explained either.”

The statement said members of the 12-person grand jury asked about additional charges. “The grand jury was told there would be none because the prosecutors didn’t feel they could make them stick. The grand jury didn’t agree that certain actions were justified, nor did it decide the indictment should be the only charges in the Breonna Taylor case. The grand jury was not given the opportunity to deliberate on those charges and deliberated only on what was presented to them.”

MrsSpringsteen 12-09-2020 06:15 PM

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NBC News

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Casey Goodson was coming home from the dentist when he was gunned down in front of his grandmother, family lawyers said.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — A sheriff's deputy fatally shot a 23-year-old on his grandmother's doorstep following a "verbal exchange" with the lawman, authorities and family members said Sunday.

Loved ones of Casey Christopher Goodson Jr. said they have "extreme concern" about the killing in Columbus on Friday and are demanding a thorough investigation.


On Tuesday, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Ohio announced that it would review the shooting "and take appropriate action if the evidence indicates any federal civil rights laws were violated." U.S. attorneys are federal prosecutors and the chief federal law enforcement officer of their districts.

A Franklin County Sheriff's deputy, working with a U.S. Marshals Service fugitive task force, "reported witnessing a man with a gun," Columbus police said in a statement.

"The deputy was investigating the situation and there are reports of a verbal exchange. The deputy fired at Mr. Casey Goodson, resulting in his death," according to a sheriff's statement. "A gun was recovered from Mr. Goodson. Mr. Goodson was not the person being sought by the U.S. Marshals task force."

Sean Walton, a lawyer representing the family, said Goodson's loved ones are skeptical of the deputy's version of the deadly encounter.

“It doesn’t make sense,” Walton told NBC News on Monday. “Who drives down the street waving a gun out of the window? This isn’t a music video. This is real life.”

Goodson was licensed to carry a concealed weapon "and Ohio does not prohibit the open carrying of firearms," according to a statement from Walton's firm.

The young man had gone to the dentist that day and fetched three Subway sandwiches before he was killed in front of his 72-year-old grandmother and two toddlers.

Goodson had parked in front of the house, walked across the front yard and was entering the home through the side entrance when he was shot, according to Walton.


“There’s no reason or justification for why any of this happened,” Walton said. “He fell and died in his own kitchen.”

When Goodson's grandmother heard the shots and screams of toddlers, she rushed to the kitchen where the deputy pointed his gun at family members and ordered them out of the house, according to Walton. The family saw the sandwiches next to Goodson's body but not the gun, their lawyer said.

dazzledbylight 12-13-2020 01:30 AM

God damnit, I'm so furious about trigger-happy innury and death dealing racist law enforcement! (the sheriff is going to have to prove otherwise!)

Those poor toddlers, :sad: and his grandmother! How dare he point his gun at them and order them out
of their home! :gah:

Hewson 11-24-2021 12:47 PM

Guilty

Irvine511 11-24-2021 12:54 PM

Phew.


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