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BVS 09-16-2016 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto (Post 8101844)
You mean a plurality of the country given recent polls.

No, I mean common sense and the ability to comprehend everyday observations.

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto (Post 8101844)
The horse race would have ended quickly had the Democrats provided a suitable candidate for liberals, but it looks like we'll either toss Jill Stein a bit of pity or just recycle the ballot. Y'all say you didn't need us, so enjoy a nailbiter.

This is an absolute non sequitur, this message would have resonated no matter who. Stop trying so hard.



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BigMacPhisto 09-16-2016 10:37 PM

Of course it would have, but then Trump's lowly polling numbers (in the low 40s) wouldn't have been anywhere near enough for him to be in contention. After all, the third party polling tends to hurt Clinton by an extra point or two in her margin over Trump. That 3,000,000 or so that currently say they're voting for Stein would have dried up to almost zero had Bernie been the nominee. Not to mention the millions of others staying home because of the detestable options.

But, god forbid it happens and the orangutan becomes Commander In Chief - all of the Clinton primary voters owe everybody else an apology. Hell, you can argue that they owe everybody on the left one already. Even if she wins, it will lead to much weaker coattails for the rest of the Democrats to ride giving us a more Republican heavy Senate and House than if someone else had been the Democratic nominee.

Oregoropa 09-16-2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen (Post 8101830)
I note the conspicuous lack of a rebuttal.


Got busy at work.

I feel that Hillary is incredibly dangerous to the country. That being said, you have very skillfully defended her to the point where I pointed out you'd make a great press secretary for her. You have been able to deflect attacks against her as Conspiracy or Hyperbole (Conspirbole). Don't have time for a rebuttal at the moment. But will get around to it. Initial thought is that you are using the term "White Supremacist" hot and loose, to your rhetorical credit.

- O


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deep 09-16-2016 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen (Post 8101830)
I note the conspicuous lack of a rebuttal.




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Moonlit_Angel 09-16-2016 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8101857)
I feel that Hillary is incredibly dangerous to the country.

Hilary's not the one currently making "jokes" about how risky it could be if a presidential candidate didn't have armed guards around them. Just sayin'.

BVS 09-16-2016 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel (Post 8101861)
Hilary's not the one currently making "jokes" about how risky it could be if a presidential candidate didn't have armed guards around them. Just sayin'.


Not to mention:

tracking people of certain religions

not taking nuking Europe off the table

posting propaganda written by neo nazis

and who did he hire as his campaign manager?

When you can't recognize danger, you are amongst the most dangerous.


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deep 09-16-2016 11:31 PM

Can you hear the people sing?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZLf23mKbQ

Diemen 09-17-2016 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8101857)
Don't have time for a rebuttal at the moment. But will get around to it. Initial thought is that you are using the term "White Supremacist" hot and loose, to your rhetorical credit.

- O


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I look forward to your rebuttal, because so far you have not defended Trump against any of the charges laid against him.

As for being hot and loose with the term white supremacist, I have only used that term to describe people who fit its definition. I wish it wasn't the case.

LuckyNumber7 09-17-2016 12:20 AM

2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIII
 
I'd rather hear his rebuttal than BMP's.

LuckyNumber7 09-17-2016 12:40 AM

RCP has a nice little module running from their aggregate polling -- no toss-up mapping.

They just take their current aggregate poll number and update each state as it updates.

Remember: aggregate polls do not accurately predict -- rather, each individual poll is an individual predictor. So, aggregate polling is second order, and these results merely depict trends as opposed to results.

Nonetheless, given the current trends (Trump surge), this should give you an idea of where the Republicans stand as of today, were these pills to come true.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._toss_ups.html

deep 09-17-2016 01:28 AM

I think that map is pretty good, it has Trump at 245
but I think he wins North Carolina also, that's 15 more to put him at 260
Three somewhat small but competitive states are; Nevada, New Hampshire, Colorado if he wins any two of those states, which if there Is a late search he could,
Then he wins the whole thing

Of course if PA moved his way, it gets a lot easier, but I,m thinking that N C is more likely,

Also Trump only needs 269 to become President while Clinton needs 270.

Irvine511 09-17-2016 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8101857)
Got busy at work.

I feel that Hillary is incredibly dangerous to the country.



Oh PLEASE.

The most cautious politician ever is dangerous to the country? That's absolute nonsense and you know it. "Incredibly" dangerous? You can't believe that. She's not so far from mainstream conservative thought. She understands how government works. She's a defender of the status quo. She's reasonable and informed and hard working.

You can't in any serious way believe she's *dangerous* to the country, or the world.

You may prefer the politics of the maybe-billionaire Donald Trump. You may be a racist. You may not like her. But you cannot think in any way, shape, or form, that she's somehow a danger to life on earth as we know it.

deep 09-17-2016 01:40 AM

Incompetence is dangerous, W proved that
Hillary 2016 has proven to be incompetent.

BVS 09-17-2016 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by deep (Post 8101890)
Incompetence is dangerous, W proved that
Hillary 2016 has proven to be incompetent.


Ok, let's play this game: So Trump has proven himself competent?


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namkcuR 09-17-2016 01:46 AM

I'm not counting on North Carolina, which means she basically can't lose any other states. Which is why that poll where Drumpf led in Colorado legitimately worried me, for the first time in the campaign, that he could win.

Also, if that map holds true, Hillary would be the first president since JFK to be elected without Ohio.

I'm an Ohioan and I will be humiliated if he wins the state, and I expect him to.

BigMacPhisto 09-17-2016 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by deep (Post 8101885)
Also Trump only needs 269 to become President while Clinton needs 270.

Forgot all about that. Certainly helps.

Don't you think there'd be at least one Republican in the House that views Trump as too dangerous and votes the other way, especially if Clinton won the popular vote? Very possible it would not be a slam dunk.

BigMacPhisto 09-17-2016 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 8101893)
Ok, let's play this game: So Trump has proven himself competent?

And that's exactly why this election is close. It always reverts back to Trump's awfulness and never to Clinton's positives. Contrasts are important and Democrats really dropped the ball.

deep 09-17-2016 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto (Post 8101896)
Forgot all about that. Certainly helps.

Don't you think there'd be at least one Republican in the House that views Trump as too dangerous and votes the other way, especially if Clinton won the popular vote? Very possible it would not be a slam dunk.

Each one of the 50 states get one vote I think, and the GOP control enough small states, he wins, easy.

it is kind of funny looking at the states
And the electoral votes there are a few ways he can hit 269

I kind of hope that happens, and the popular vote ???

The Brexit vote will look like kindergarten


And to think if they had good ol' Joe Biden, this truly would be over, just like 96 or 88, instead the elitists, gobalists put the fix in for crooked Hillary.

deep 09-17-2016 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR (Post 8101894)

Also, if that map holds true, Hillary would be the first president since JFK to be elected without Ohio.

I'm an Ohioan and I will be humiliated if he wins the state, and I expect him to.

We certainly don't want Ohio to lose its status as the state that always goes with the winner
and if Hillary cannot win Ohio with the most popular governor ever crapping all over trump,
does she really deserve to be president?

BVS 09-17-2016 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto (Post 8101897)
And that's exactly why this election is close. It always reverts back to Trump's awfulness and never to Clinton's positives. Contrasts are important and Democrats really dropped the ball.


Man, you will drive 100 miles away to avoid the point won't you?!


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