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kramwest1 11-01-2010 12:34 PM

Regardless of what the outcome is tomorrow, are we really gonna have 2 more years of that windbag idiot babbling on and on?

:yuck:

Canadiens1131 11-01-2010 12:39 PM

Unfortunately.

The campaign for the Republican Nominee for President begins the morning of Nov. 3rd, and it's going to be a complete gong show.

MrsSpringsteen 11-01-2010 01:07 PM

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin - Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei - POLITICO.com

"Many of these establishment figures argue in not-for-attribution comments that Palin’s nomination would ensure President Barack Obama’s reelection, as the deficiencies that marked her 2008 debut as a vice presidential nominee — an intensely polarizing political style and often halting and superficial answers when pressed on policy — have shown little sign of abating in the past two years.

"There is a determined, focused establishment effort … to find a candidate we can coalesce around who can beat Sarah Palin," said one prominent and longtime Washington Republican. "We believe she could get the nomination, but Barack Obama would crush her."

nathan1977 11-01-2010 01:14 PM

If she's smart, she'll stay a commentator on Fox News, work behind the scenes to mobilize that part of the conservative electorate that gets excited by her, and enjoy a long and distinguished (?) career as a partisan commentator.

Please note, I said "if."

Moonlit_Angel 11-01-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen (Post 7017300)
"There is a determined, focused establishment effort … to find a candidate we can coalesce around who can beat Sarah Palin," said one prominent and longtime Washington Republican. "We believe she could get the nomination, but Barack Obama would crush her."

Exactly. If the Republicans want any hope in 2012, they would definitely do well to listen to this. It's kinda nice to see some in the GOP realize that.

Angela

MrsSpringsteen 11-02-2010 12:41 PM

House Minority Leader John Boehner has been walking the line on the campaign trail, conjuring up American icons who may or may not agree with his message in order drum up support from his base. Rosanne Cash, daughter of the legendary singer Johnny Cash, a name frequently brought up by the GOP leader, apparently thinks that line has been crossed, as she recently tweeted a demand -- and an insult -- to Boehner asking him to cut it out.

"John Boehner: Stop using my dad's name as a punchline, you asshat," Cash wrote in a tweet Monday.

The New York Times reports on a joke that has become a staple of Boehner's campaign trail repertoire:

At each stop he draws on nostalgia for the Republican glory days of the 1980s, by telling the same joke. "Remember when Ronald Reagan was president," he said. "We had Bob Hope. We had Johnny Cash. Think about where we are today. We have got President Obama. But we have no hope and we have no cash." It draws hoots of laughter and applause every time.



Gauging the twitter dialogue, the response to Cash's defense of her father seems largely positive, though some appear to have taken offense to the slight at Boehner. To one detractor, Cash responded:

"[H]e didn't sign on to be punchline for some politician; he's not here to defend himself. He deserves more honor. Think what you will."

As Johnny Cash, who didn't usually wear partisanship on his sleeve but was renowned for his politically charged lyrics, once sang in "The One On The Right Is On The Left":

"Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land
Just work on harmony and diction
Play your banjo well
And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself"

Moonlit_Angel 11-02-2010 02:14 PM

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At each stop he draws on nostalgia for the Republican glory days of the 1980s, by telling the same joke. "Remember when Ronald Reagan was president," he said. "We had Bob Hope. We had Johnny Cash. Think about where we are today. We have got President Obama. But we have no hope and we have no cash." It draws hoots of laughter and applause every time.
Ahaha, ahahaha, aha, ha...um...yeah :|.

I was just a small child in the '80s, but I seem to recall learning that quite a few people didn't have much hope and cash that decade. There was a whole farmers' crisis thing going on, and there was that stock market tumble in '87, to name a couple economic problems, so try again, maybe?

Boehner's an idiot. I'm glad Rosanne's calling him out on that crap.

Angela

A stor 11-02-2010 09:19 PM

Well said Mrs. Springsteen and I glad Rosanne spoke up in defense of her dad. She is right of course.

Wise words in Johnny's song. :applaud: I'm not a fan of the modern country music. But, I grew up listening to Johnny Cash, my mom loved him and so do I.

KhanadaRhodes 11-03-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel (Post 7018571)
Ahaha, ahahaha, aha, ha...um...yeah :|.

I was just a small child in the '80s, but I seem to recall learning that quite a few people didn't have much hope and cash that decade. There was a whole farmers' crisis thing going on, and there was that stock market tumble in '87, to name a couple economic problems, so try again, maybe?

Boehner's an idiot. I'm glad Rosanne's calling him out on that crap.

exactly. i'm in the same boat as you, i was just a little kid but i remember that stuff. i remember the recession in the early 80s (well, it was before i was born but i've certainly heard about it) but thankfully my parents weren't affected by it. i also remember what you mentioned, though again we weren't affected by it. but since it didn't affect me, it doesn't mean it didn't happen or anything. i think it's easier to look back on the past and remember, well, YOU didn't lose your job nor did anyone you knew. revisionist history is never a good thing, and if we don't learn from our past mistakes we're bound to repeat them. that's what happened this time and oh hey, we didn't learn from them again. it's just easier to point the finger and blame obama because he didn't undo the recession in less time than it took for it to occur.

Moonlit_Angel 11-04-2010 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KhanadaRhodes (Post 7019438)
exactly. i'm in the same boat as you, i was just a little kid but i remember that stuff. i remember the recession in the early 80s (well, it was before i was born but i've certainly heard about it) but thankfully my parents weren't affected by it. i also remember what you mentioned, though again we weren't affected by it. but since it didn't affect me, it doesn't mean it didn't happen or anything. i think it's easier to look back on the past and remember, well, YOU didn't lose your job nor did anyone you knew.

This hit the nail on the head, right here: "I didn't experience it, therefore, it doesn't matter/exist." That's precisely what it is. Too many self-absorbed people who have a hard time putting themselves in someone else's shoes (which, given the '80s were the decade of "Me, me, me!", shouldn't be surprising).

My family's certainly never been able to call ourselves anything even remotely concerned with the word "rich", and we've never been in the "upper middle-class" bracket, either, so my guess is my parents struggled through like many others did. I know they've never spoken well of Reagan's presidency.

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Originally Posted by KhanadaRhodes (Post 7019438)
revisionist history is never a good thing, and if we don't learn from our past mistakes we're bound to repeat them. that's what happened this time and oh hey, we didn't learn from them again. it's just easier to point the finger and blame obama because he didn't undo the recession in less time than it took for it to occur.

Fully, completely agreed here as well. Especially about the revisionist history stuff. Rose-colored glasses may be pretty, but there's a reason why they're tinted instead of clear.

Angela

deep 11-05-2010 02:24 AM

YouTube - Together

Diemen 11-05-2010 07:10 AM

Gentlemen, I do believe we've found the perfect way to elicit a roll of the eyes.

BEAL 11-05-2010 08:08 AM

I know she's speaking English, but I honestly have no clue what she says in these videos. I just hear words put together but i'm left feeling the exact same way before i listened.

I can't wait till she runs and just embarrasses herself again. Wonder how many shout outs or winks to the camera she'll do???

BVS 11-05-2010 08:58 AM

The lumberjack guy was the guy from the Real World right?

We've had actors and wrestlers, but if I'm not mistaken he's the first reality TV star...

Snooki in 2016!

Canadiens1131 11-05-2010 09:21 AM

Looking at it pragmatically, I really think the country could have done a lot worse than to have Boehner as speaker. When considering the current low watermark in people who choose to run for office and get media coverage on a nat'l level, he's pretty old school Washington.

We're going to see a lot of stalemate in the next two years, and the ball is in the Republicans' court pretty much to get something done. I expect a couple of vetos from Obams, probably deserved ones, and a lot of crying from the House Rs about how they're trying to get something done but the White House is stopping them. It's going to feel good to see the other side frustrated and fractured after two years of them walking in lockstep to entirely oppose the Democratic majority and the White House.

The real question is whether the American public will be frustrated with the Republicans in 2012 for getting nothing done beyond a couple of showy forced congressional testimonies from White House officials. If that happens, and the economy finally hits its stride in 2011 and 2012 then Obama's reelection is a pretty sure thing.

There is also the question of how the nat'l Republican Party is going to stamp down the Tea Party wing, get them into line while still pandering to their base, and line up all the horses for 2012.

If we see a libertarian-minded third party candidate running in 2012, they will surely be taking votes away from the Republicans rather than Democrats and undecideds. The Tea Party is the new Religious Right and the party needs them in the big election.

anitram 11-05-2010 11:34 AM

I honestly want to throw up every time I hear Sarah Palin speak. She is so inarticulate, it really pains me. And the constant dropping of every G from a verb endin' and the use of "gonna", "wanna", "ya" and so forth in a serious speech is beyond silly.

If this is what makes me an elitist, then thank God that I am one.

That video of hers is BEYOND RIDICULOUS.

financeguy 11-05-2010 02:50 PM

Boehner's a complete alcoholic allegedly, it apparently accounts for his crying jags.

Even the otherwise soft Vanity Fair write up on him recently tallked of him being a "one, two, three or sometimes more beer a night" man.

Moonlit_Angel 11-05-2010 03:17 PM

That's an interesting explanation.

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Originally Posted by anitram (Post 7022905)
I honestly want to throw up every time I hear Sarah Palin speak. She is so inarticulate, it really pains me. And the constant dropping of every G from a verb endin' and the use of "gonna", "wanna", "ya" and so forth in a serious speech is beyond silly.

If this is what makes me an elitist, then thank God that I am one.

That video of hers is BEYOND RIDICULOUS.

Amen to every single word of this post. I saw that video last night on TV and was just like, "What the F*CK?"

I also heard that in the first episode of her "docuseries" (it's not a reality show! It's a docuseries), she actually complains about invasion of privacy.

I'll say that again: On her TV show about her life in Alaska, she complains about invasion of privacy. Yeah :|.

Is it too much to ask that a rocket please, PLEASE send her to some faraway galaxy and never, ever bring her back? Anyone who still thinks she's something worth supporting...I don't even know what's going wrong in their minds anymore.

Angela

martha 11-05-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram (Post 7022905)
I honestly want to throw up every time I hear Sarah Palin speak.

I had to stop listening to her. I had to do the same with W.

KhanadaRhodes 11-05-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram (Post 7022905)
I honestly want to throw up every time I hear Sarah Palin speak. She is so inarticulate, it really pains me. And the constant dropping of every G from a verb endin' and the use of "gonna", "wanna", "ya" and so forth in a serious speech is beyond silly.

If this is what makes me an elitist, then thank God that I am one.

That video of hers is BEYOND RIDICULOUS.

totally agreed. i know she says she's a hockey mom and all that, and well she definitely proves she is. but i want politicians who are better than me and better than the typical person. if i can hear them talk and go "hey, i can do better than this" then that person shouldn't be anywhere near politics.


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