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Pearl 04-15-2009 03:33 PM

Anti-Tax Tea Parties Held Across U.S.
 
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Thousands of protesters, some dressed like Revolutionary War soldiers and most waving signs with anti-tax slogans, gathered around the nation Wednesday for a series of rallies modeled after the original Boston Tea Party.

They chose the income tax filing deadline to express their displeasure with government spending since President Barack Obama took office.

The protests were held everywhere from Kentucky, which just passed tax increases on cigarettes and alcohol, to South Carolina, where the governor has repeatedly criticized the $787 billion economic stimulus package Congress passed earlier this year.

"Frankly, I'm mad as hell," said Des Moines, Iowa, businessman Doug Burnett, one of about 1,000 people, many in red shirts declaring "revolution is brewing," at a rally at the Iowa Capitol. "This country has been on a spending spree for decades, a spending spree we can't afford."

Large rallies were expected later in California and New York.

In Atlanta, thousands of people were to gather on the steps of the Georgia Capitol, where Fox News Channel conservative pundit Sean Hannity was set to broadcast his show Wednesday night.

In Boston, a few hundred protesters gathered on the Boston Common — a short distance from the original Tea Party — some dressed as Revolutionary soldiers and carrying signs that said "Barney Frank, Bernie Madoff: And the Difference Is?" and "D.C.: District of Communism."

The tea parties were promoted by FreedomWorks, a conservative nonprofit advocacy group based in Washington and led by former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, a lobbyist whose corporate clients including Verizon, Raytheon, liquor maker Diageo, CarMax and drug company Sanofi Pasteur

The group's federal tax returns show its educational and charitable arms received more than $6 million in donations in 2007, the most recent year for which returns are available.

Organizers said the movement developed organically through online social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter and through exposure on Fox News.
Tax deadline brings out thousands of protesters

I'm a little surprised FYM has not brought this up yet. Since it has thousands of Americans protesting Obama in a sense, I figured someone would discuss this.

Anyway, whether you support the tea parties or think it's all wacky, what do you think about this? Do you think it is the start of something, or it will go no where? Will the Obama administration prove these people wrong, or will the opposite occur?

Tiger Edge 04-15-2009 03:37 PM

They will be ignored. Just like the millions of anti-war protesters three years ago. Guess they'll have to try harder to elect someone in 2012, cause this administration doesn't give a shit what they think.
As far as what all the spending will accomplish... :shrug: I failed economics.

Pearl 04-15-2009 03:44 PM

Oh jeez, check out how dumb some people are:

YouTube - CNN Reporter Harassed at Chicago "Tea-Party"

Irvine511 04-15-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearl (Post 6091925)

I'm a little surprised FYM has not brought this up yet. Since it has thousands of Americans protesting Obama in a sense, I figured someone would discuss this.

Anyway, whether you support the tea parties or think it's all wacky, what do you think about this? Do you think it is the start of something, or it will go no where? Will the Obama administration prove these people wrong, or will the opposite occur?



i thought about bringing this up, and i did notice that the DC metro was really crowded this morning. but i saw no protest signs, so i just assumed it was families with kids on spring break. but i really don't see what all these teabaggers are arguing against, or, more importantly, what they stand for.

lower taxes? less government? less spending?

and, if so, why did they suddenly start to care about these things on January 20, 2009? not a peep when it came to giving Turkey $34b to allow us to land planes there, not a word about farm subsidies, not a whisper about medicare entitlements.

but i guess that was all okay because it was done by the GOP?

and what do these teabaggers want to do? how do they propose stimulating the economy? what services are they willing to see cut? how do the propose cutting taxes and yet generating revenue in order to pay off deficits and debt?

they seem as disorganized as the Left, but yet all this teabagging has been orchestrated by several GOP Congressmen and Fox News.

can someone explain?

elevated_u2_fan 04-15-2009 03:51 PM

I feel bad for the fish

BVS 04-15-2009 03:52 PM

The problem is are these "tea parties" don't even know what they are truly protesting. They have no common voice. Some are saying it's about taxes, some are saying it's about spending, some of the protestors are waving signs about guns:huh:. Some are saying it's about Obama, others are saying it's not about Obama. And some are just anti-government.

It's really just a bitch session. And because it has no real voice or reason it won't mean shit.

deep 04-15-2009 04:26 PM

We just know there is a serious problem in America.

With Bush we knew his heart was in the right place.

And he had such a spectacular team advising him.

We knew what his core values were.
He came from a true-blue all American family.

He did what was right for Americans.
He was not over in Europe trying to be everyone's best friend.

BVS 04-15-2009 04:30 PM

This report isn't very good, but you have to love the protesters...

I would have loved to hear his reaction if she actually asked him what fascism is...

YouTube - Tea Partyer on Obama: "He's a Fascist!"

"open minded assimilation"?

YouTube - New Haven Tea Party Open Mic

This guy is so pissed off that he voted against new cops in Asheville, because apparently they can't waste their time tracking down the Mexicans that crossed the North Carolina border? :huh:

YouTube - Dr Carl Mumpower at the Franklin Tax Day Tea Party

UberBeaver 04-15-2009 04:35 PM

That reporter was kinda annoying, no? Let the guy talk. If he's going to make an ass of himself, that's his right.

lol, I love how they're all angry NOW. "It ain't socialism if it's going to rich or upper class white people! That's Capitalism! But now you're giving it to schools? SOCIALIST PIG DOG! BURN!"

They had one of these on Long Island last week. Nothing like a bunch of high-middle class / low upper class twits babbling about how much they pay in taxes (and fyi - County property taxes for most of them is probably $25k and higher, and the country is - or was until recently - run by Republicans), and then angrily hop into their $80k SUVs in protest. FIGHT THE POWER!

Irvine511 04-15-2009 04:36 PM

considering the enormous amount of money Obama just gave to the BANKS, it seems a little rich to be calling him a socialist.

elevated_u2_fan 04-15-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBeaver (Post 6092216)
Nothing like a bunch of high-middle class / low upper class twits

YouTube - Monty Python Upperclass Twit of the Year

UberBeaver 04-15-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan (Post 6092229)


We could only hope to be so lucky.......

floweravalanche 04-15-2009 04:52 PM

well I for one am a supporter of the tea parties I was going to go to one in my town, just to express how I feel about a lot of the unnecessary spending that is going in the US, it's not just Obama it's the government in general, money is going to a lot of things that it shouldn't be going to at the moment, we should be focusing on getting America out of the debt we are in and focusing on figuring out how we got there, and how to get out. The money shouldn't be going to banks, or CIOS of all the companies that took money from everyone else in the first place, it should be going back to the American people. Raising Taxes and cutting fundings, that are important like higher education is not the answer at all, there is more, but I don't want to blabber on and on :)

I also agree with what Deep said about Bush. Bush was great, he did a lot for this country, even though there are some that are angry at him, he was still a great president, but no matter who is in office someone is going to be upset no matter what, baggers can't be choosers.

Obama has got to read the facts, etc before he starts saying lets do this lets do that, figure out how we got here, what to do, and to take action ASAP. Not just trowing money around everywhere, and blabbing on about his new dog ( which I think his dog is kind of cute by the way), and saying I will be bring change. Instead of saying it do it, but before you do please know what the heck you are doing first and read the facts.

Also the government needs to be working together regardless of the party you are in the American people want you to work together who gives a crap if you're a democrat or a republican or a monkeyfor all I care, give off your butts, stop fighting, and work together. Again I don't want to blabber on.

So personally I don't think these people are stupid for standing up what they believe in, some are more radical then others, but heck each it's own I say. :)

MissVelvetDress_75 04-15-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan (Post 6092229)

:lol:

Irvine511 04-15-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092270)
I also agree with what Deep said about Bush. Bush was great, he did a lot for this country, even though there are some that are angry at him, he was still a great president, but no matter who is in office someone is going to be upset no matter what, baggers can't be choosers.



so are you mad about Bush's enormous, 8-year long contribution to the debt? or did you just become angry about this on January 20, 2009?

because you wrote this:

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just to express how I feel about a lot of the unnecessary spending that is going in the US, it's not just Obama it's the government in general, money is going to a lot of things that it shouldn't be going to at the moment, we should be focusing on getting America out of the debt we are in and focusing on figuring out how we got there, and how to get out.
and i can tell you how we got there:

https://students.georgiasouthern.edu/...rge-W-Bush.jpg

BVS 04-15-2009 05:08 PM

First off, welcome to FYM :wave:

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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092270)
well I for one am a supporter of the tea parties I was going to go to one in my town, just to express how I feel about a lot of the unnecessary spending that is going in the US, it's not just Obama it's the government in general, money is going to a lot of things that it shouldn't be going to at the moment, we should be focusing on getting America out of the debt we are in and focusing on figuring out how we got there, and how to get out. The money shouldn't be going to banks, or CIOS of all the companies that took money from everyone else in the first place, it should be going back to the American people. Raising Taxes and cutting fundings, that are important like higher education is not the answer at all, there is more, but I don't want to blabber on and on :)

Later on you talk about reading the facts, you may want to take some of your own advice.

Can you tell me which of your taxes have been raised?

Where would businesses get money if banks went banckrupt? It sucks, yes, but honestly you would never get loaned another dime if all the banks stopped lending.

Where is higher education funding being cut, I'm a little confused.

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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092270)
I also agree with what Deep said about Bush. Bush was great, he did a lot for this country, even though there are some that are angry at him, he was still a great president, but no matter who is in office someone is going to be upset no matter what, baggers can't be choosers.

Deep was being facetious.

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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092270)
Obama has got to read the facts, etc before he starts saying lets do this lets do that, figure out how we got here, what to do, and to take action ASAP. Not just trowing money around everywhere, and blabbing on about his new dog ( which I think his dog is kind of cute by the way), and saying I will be bring change. Instead of saying it do it, but before you do please know what the heck you are doing first and read the facts.

What was that you were saying about Bush?


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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092270)
Also the government needs to be working together regardless of the party you are in the American people want you to work together who gives a crap if you're a democrat or a republican or a monkeyfor all I care, give off your butts, stop fighting, and work together. Again I don't want to blabber on.

Well we can agree on this...

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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092270)
So personally I don't think these people are stupid for standing up what they believe in, some are more radical then others, but heck each it's own I say. :)

No, they aren't stupid for standing up for what they believe in, it's just most don't even know what they are standing up for...

floweravalanche 04-15-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092323)
First off, welcome to FYM :wave:

Thank you :)


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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092323)
Later on you talk about reading the facts, you may want to take some of your own advice.

I read a lot of my own facts, it's the matter of if you agree with them or not ;)

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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092323)
Can you tell me which of your taxes have been raised?

Well there are taxes being raised just about everywhere right now, food, gas, etc

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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092323)
Where would businesses get money if banks went banckrupt? It sucks, yes, but honestly you would never get loaned another dime if all the banks stopped lending.

Thats true...But still sucks lol

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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092323)
Where is higher education funding being cut, I'm a little confused.

That just happened here yesterday where I am at they just cut over 300 million dollars in higher education fund other garbage that is not neasscary right now, I got the e-mail from the college I going to, from the board etc, because of this a lot of student including myself, will lose fundings, etc for our schooling.





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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092323)
No, they aren't stupid for standing up for what they believe in, it's just most don't even know what they are standing up for...

Well as I always say each it own, a lot of people when they are upset about something go on on about stuff that they might not know what they are standing up for or saying, it happens we're only human,let them speak their minds and heart until they turn blue.

"the right to be ridicules is something I hold dear" I probably spelled that wrong lol but I had to quote that lol cause I agree with that :)

Tiger Edge 04-15-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearl (Post 6091958)
Oh jeez, check out how dumb some people are:

YouTube - CNN Reporter Harassed at Chicago "Tea-Party"

What a horrible reporter. She should be fired, unless she is out in the open about her political stances, of course.
She should have let the idiot finish what he was saying before interrupting him.

BVS 04-15-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092500)
Well there are taxes being raised just about everywhere right now, food, gas, etc

I haven't heard of a federal gas tax increase being passed. I heard a lot of talk and speculation, but I haven't seen one pass, do you have any info?

Food? Unprepared food, restaurants, I'm not sure what you are talking about, I haven't seen one of these either.


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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092500)
That just happened here yesterday where I am at they just cut over 300 million dollars in higher education fund other garbage that is not neasscary right now, I got the e-mail from the college I going to, from the board etc, because of this a lot of student including myself, will lose fundings, etc for our schooling.

Are you talking about federally funded research? Are you talking about grants? Do you go to a federally funded university?


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Originally Posted by floweravalanche (Post 6092500)
Well as I always say each it own, a lot of people when they are upset about something go on on about stuff that they might not know what they are standing up for or saying, it happens we're only human,let them speak their minds and heart until they turn blue.

Oh, I'm all for letting them sound ridiculous... No one is stopping them.

floweravalanche 04-15-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS (Post 6092645)
I haven't heard of a federal gas tax increase being passed. I heard a lot of talk and speculation, but I haven't seen one pass, do you have any info?

Food? Unprepared food, restaurants, I'm not sure what you are talking about, I haven't seen one of these either.



Are you talking about federally funded research? Are you talking about grants? Do you go to a federally funded university?




Oh, I'm all for letting them sound ridiculous... No one is stopping them.

Maybe the food taxes, etc are just where I am I just happened to notice it recently well shopping, etc. It use to be a 6% tax on our shopping now it's 8%-10%

With the gas maybe I was referring to it going up, it's down now, but it will up again. Maybe I got a little confused lol

I go to a community college right now I'm rely on grants and federal aid to be able to go to school without it I wouldn't be going. This all just happened yesterday, so I'm still learning more on it.


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