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coolian2 02-21-2009 07:49 PM

I "heart" A Year In Pop
 
how can we forget a year in pop, the documentary associated with the popmart tour?

let's appreciate and respect for the lowest rated tv special of all time* :bono: :adam: :edge: :larry:

YouTube - U2_A Year in Pop Part 1 of 5

YouTube - U2_A Year in Pop Part 2 of 5

YouTube - U2_A Year in Pop Part 3 of 5

YouTube - U2_A Year in Pop Part 4 of 5

YouTube - U2_A Year in Pop Part 5

KhanadaRhodes 02-21-2009 07:49 PM

much respect.

Axver 02-21-2009 07:50 PM

I respect this so much that I'm going to help it maintain its low ratings by not watching it even now. :up:

KhanadaRhodes 02-21-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Axver (Post 5908930)
I respect this so much that I'm going to help it maintain its low ratings by not watching it even now. :up:

bite me.

i remember staying in that evening and taping it...on a vcr! i did the same thing when they appeared on this vh1 show legends, which was basically behind the music without focusing on the drama of "omg the singer became alcoholic/a drug addict/went bankrupt!"

coolian2 02-21-2009 07:54 PM

was it any good? i might actually watch it.

OrARoundabout 02-21-2009 08:04 PM

Were did it air?

Lowest rated T.V special? OUCH!

KhanadaRhodes 02-21-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by coolian2 (Post 5908940)
was it any good? i might actually watch it.

it's not bad, it just had the unfortunate timing of being aired saturday night. seriously, who sits around on saturday night channel surfing?

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Originally Posted by OrARoundabout (Post 5908980)
Were did it air?

Lowest rated T.V special? OUCH!

it aired in america, on the channel abc.

i'm not sure if it's still the lowest rated, but when it aired in 97 it was. regardless though, yeah. no one watched it.

Axver 02-21-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhanadaRhodes (Post 5908937)
bite me.

i remember staying in that evening and taping it...on a vcr!

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's on one of my bazillion bootleg DVDs that I probably watched once in 2004 and haven't touched since. So I've seen it and don't really remember it. :tongue:

pacemaker 02-21-2009 08:26 PM

I too stayed home and taped it. It was cool as hell back then. Haven't watched it since.

But didn't Dennis Hopper narrate it?

KhanadaRhodes 02-21-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pacemaker (Post 5909049)
I too stayed home and taped it. It was cool as hell back then. Haven't watched it since.

But didn't Dennis Hopper narrate it?

yes.

Niceman 02-21-2009 08:31 PM

I still have my vhs recording of it! :)

Lemonfix 02-21-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coolian2 (Post 5908923)

let's appreciate and respect for the lowest rated tv special of all time :bono: :adam: :edge: :larry:

I think Mick Jagger's TV special from a few year's back may be the current holder of that title.

OrARoundabout 02-21-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhanadaRhodes (Post 5908988)
it aired in america, on the channel abc.

Well, that explains it...I'm not sure I would have been inclined to watch it, not a huge Pop/PopMart fan...


BUT I DO ROCK OUT TO MOFO!

purpleoscar 02-21-2009 09:06 PM

"Cut your fucking hair!" :lol:

Moser 02-21-2009 09:18 PM

Pop

God, I love this album.

digitize 02-21-2009 09:54 PM

I'll watch this when I finish listening to NLOTH for the 23894592385934520938465293485th time.

purpleoscar 02-21-2009 10:30 PM

They certainly let their egos go too far but the result was a great tour even if the Americans didn't "get it". Let's hope they get ambitious again with the new tour and blow away the new audience they created the past 10 years.

BonoIsMyMuse 02-21-2009 10:39 PM

The Allen Ginsberg version of Miami :drool:

The Sad Punk 02-21-2009 11:38 PM

The first video has 235 views. I'm sure that's at least twice as many as there were originally.

The Sad Punk 02-21-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemonfix (Post 5909073)
I think Mick Jagger's TV special from a few year's back may be the current holder of that title.

Haha, I think Bono's in that, too.

That is a terrible, terrible documentary. Although it seemed that everytime I put on the Biography channel, a repeat of it would be showing. I'm sure I could probably karaoke to it by now. Do people do that with documentaries?

tsweeney 02-22-2009 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Niceman (Post 5909072)
I still have my vhs recording of it! :)

Me too. I still watch it once in a while. I thought it was pretty good. Dennis Hopper did narrate it. The VH1 Legends special was good as well.

Pop Artist 02-22-2009 12:38 AM

Ahh, A Year In Pop will always hold a special place in my heart. I remember being in Vegas for the PopMart opener when it aired...it had already aired on the East Coast but not in Vegas yet when I was checking my messages online...somebody told me that I REALLY needed to watch it...

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Originally Posted by coolian2 (Post 5908923)

Upper left at 2:34-2:35 into the video, gal in the purple coat...that is me. :D Had no clue I'd been taped until I saw it...

Rachel D. 02-22-2009 12:45 AM

I've never seen this! Unfortunately, it's getting late and I was going to do some homework. :grumpy: I'll be back, though.

OrARoundabout 02-22-2009 11:28 AM

I still don't get the whole "K-Mart" thing...I'm glad I was just alittle kid durning this whole fuckery

purpleoscar 02-22-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrARoundabout (Post 5911508)
I still don't get the whole "K-Mart" thing...I'm glad I was just alittle kid durning this whole fuckery

It's about irony. They thought the period was about consumerism so they made fun of that. ZOOTV was about 24hr news becoming entertainment and about getting your ideas from TV mainly as something we should be aware of. Americans didn't 'get' Popmart because they thought U2 were serious about the consumerism as opposed to ironic. U2 tested the audience during the 90's and went a little too far for many hence the half empty stadiums in the U.S. Much of the rest of the world loved it though you can see in the Mexico City concert when Bono is talking about "different colors" to the music that the audience wanted them to step back from that, which they ultimately did.

If this new album sells reasonably well they will probably want to stretch it a little though I don't think they will want to stretch it as far. I don't think Larry would allow them to. If you come out with an experimental album during a tour for the 'big' album you can get away with it but you will have to come out with another big album to not totally lose your audience. For example the record company forced U2 to not use their name for Passengers because they knew it wouldn't be a big hit album. The idea is to tease the audience without causing career suicide.

edgeplaytheblue 02-22-2009 01:03 PM

Oh yeaah .. i taped that one on VHS back then .... great stuff. Especially that "please" rehearsal:)

gweeps 02-22-2009 04:58 PM

Thanks. I'll watch this later.

SpaceBoy 02-22-2009 05:19 PM

Man, sometimes Dennis Hopper's narration in this thing is priceless.

gweeps 02-22-2009 05:56 PM

Oh. My. God.

OrARoundabout 02-22-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purpleoscar (Post 5911703)
It's about irony. They thought the period was about consumerism so they made fun of that. ZOOTV was about 24hr news becoming entertainment and about getting your ideas from TV mainly as something we should be aware of. Americans didn't 'get' Popmart because they thought U2 were serious about the consumerism as opposed to ironic. U2 tested the audience during the 90's and went a little too far for many hence the half empty stadiums in the U.S. Much of the rest of the world loved it though you can see in the Mexico City concert when Bono is talking about "different colors" to the music that the audience wanted them to step back from that, which they ultimately did.

If this new album sells reasonably well they will probably want to stretch it a little though I don't think they will want to stretch it as far. I don't think Larry would allow them to. If you come out with an experimental album during a tour for the 'big' album you can get away with it but you will have to come out with another big album to not totally lose your audience. For example the record company forced U2 to not use their name for Passengers because they knew it wouldn't be a big hit album. The idea is to tease the audience without causing career suicide.


Thanks for explaining...


But I still don't really understand the Bubble Pants...

The Sad Punk 02-22-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OrARoundabout (Post 5912739)
Thanks for explaining...


But I still don't really understand the Bubble Pants...

Irony!

clerks 02-22-2009 11:53 PM

KMart sucks Ray... Yeah....

Brian-C 02-23-2009 03:05 PM

Thanks for posting this. I watched it back when it originally aired, but I think my appreciation for POP was just starting to set in. And while Dennis Hopper's narration is nothing short of obnoxious, it's great to have some video document of U2 talking about the Passengers and POP.

At the time, I'm not sure I fully understood how pervasive pop and kitsch were going to become. "Pulp Fiction" and the swing and lounge revival seemed indie and cult, and while alternative-rock had pretty much become muscle-rock by 1997, I certainly didn't anticipate American Idol or the whole bad karaoke culture that has become modern music on television (award shows and all). Bono seems rather prophetic there, but then again, if you read all of the lyrics to POP, it's pretty clear that the decadence, sheen and plasticity is decaying his soul. It's a very heavy album, despite the suggestion of lightness in its title.

That being said, after seeing this video, it makes perfect sense why the band had to do a back-to-basics album after POP. Not even just to reel-in their alienated fanbase. But more because it was getting SO glam and glitter, so as to eclipse their simple talent. Too bad that next album was so boring. But I digress...

Brian-C 02-23-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by purpleoscar (Post 5911703)
It's about irony. They thought the period was about consumerism so they made fun of that. ZOOTV was about 24hr news becoming entertainment and about getting your ideas from TV mainly as something we should be aware of. Americans didn't 'get' Popmart because they thought U2 were serious about the consumerism as opposed to ironic. U2 tested the audience during the 90's and went a little too far for many hence the half empty stadiums in the U.S. Much of the rest of the world loved it though you can see in the Mexico City concert when Bono is talking about "different colors" to the music that the audience wanted them to step back from that, which they ultimately did.

If this new album sells reasonably well they will probably want to stretch it a little though I don't think they will want to stretch it as far. I don't think Larry would allow them to. If you come out with an experimental album during a tour for the 'big' album you can get away with it but you will have to come out with another big album to not totally lose your audience. For example the record company forced U2 to not use their name for Passengers because they knew it wouldn't be a big hit album. The idea is to tease the audience without causing career suicide.

Great post. I, for one, am thankful that U2 decided to put out a more atmospheric and experimental album with this new one. I also love the Passengers, but am kinda glad they didn't put it out as a U2 album. I just like the vibe it has, exactly as is, from name to sleeve art to liner notes, and especially the songs themselves. Though some would argue that Radiohead's Kid A album both teased the audience and attempted career suicide. In the end, it succeeded fantastically, and is my favorite of theirs. I think a lot of people feel the same, no disrespect to Bends or OK Computer.

KhanadaRhodes 02-25-2009 03:19 AM

:bump:

zoopop 02-25-2009 10:00 AM

I watched this in my hotel at the Treasure Island that Saturday night after the show (Friday). I know U2 took a ton of crap from the media & some fans for the Popmart, but they took a chance many artist won't even consider. They wanted to outdo ZooTV which is pretty much impossible. The electricity/hype surrounding that show in Vegas was amazing.

I can't believe U2 had the guts to take the stage that night let alone carry a tour this ambitious.

Brian-C 02-25-2009 01:56 PM

What is it about bands and fruit?

nathan1977 02-25-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sad Punk (Post 5909844)

That is a terrible, terrible documentary.

Dennis Hopper's narration is ridiculous. The worst since Robbie Robertson's narration on the "Making of Rattle and Hum" making-of.

Brian-C 02-25-2009 03:03 PM

Agreed. Terrible documentary. But the Passengers and POP sections were worth their weight in gold.

Or at least pyrite...

Mac Phisto 02-25-2009 05:08 PM

It comes off as a bit self-indulgent. It also has an infomercial feel to it, with Hopper cheesy narration and the hype of Popmart needing to top ZooTV. The band was stumbling in this period, no doubt.

Brian-C 02-25-2009 06:07 PM

Agreed. The first signs of a kink in the chain. But still, when Bono makes that comment, "Everything you said was true, except the discount prices"... he was up to his old Zoo TV era tricks. Completely brilliant and witty, quick on his toes, mysterious and hilarious. If the production of this video reeked of promotion shuck, we can be thankful that at least the music didn't. I consider POP one of their darkest albums, lyrically.

popbellydancer 02-25-2009 06:08 PM

:heart: LOVE IT! it changed my life in a weird way. my bff and i were in a deep U2 faze at the time, we had never seen U2 but were gonna go to see them at RFK in DC, and that special only helped fuel our belief that we maaaay need to go to more than one show! :hug::drool::love:

Diane L 02-25-2009 11:50 PM

I watched about a half-hour of this show and was bored out of my mind. I was shocked by my reaction and upset too. The way the band was presented in this show was boring, and the one thing I'd never thought U2 would ever be, was boring.

For a couple of years after that, I thought U2's best days were behind them. ATYCLB changed my mind about THAT, fast! And little did I know U2's best days would be...right now!!!

Muldfeld 02-26-2009 01:16 AM

I used to have this on tape, but, like an idiot, I taped over a third of it (including a very nice performance of "Do You Feel Loved?") because I wanted to record the stupid Charlie Rose interview which wasted, like, 5 minutes on a crappy U2 montage. What a waste of lost footage.

Edit: Okay, after having not seen it in over a decade, I have to say that wasn't a very good performance of "Do You Feel Loved". It lost its dancey edge live, it seems. Still a great song on the album, though... the best.

edgeplaytheblue 02-26-2009 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian-C (Post 5925332)
What is it about bands and fruit?

the chicks they love the lemons bono said in Rotterdam in 1997 :)

elevated_u2_fan 02-26-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BonoIsMyMuse (Post 5909663)
The Allen Ginsberg version of Miami :drool:

I always hated that with a passion...

Love this and I also stayed home that night and taped it - on this actual station in fact - City TV in Toronto, I can't believe they didn't include it as an extra on the PopMart DVD.

Brian-C 02-26-2009 06:36 PM

The Velvet Underground with banana and the Beatles with Apple. It just works.

popbellydancer 02-26-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeplaytheblue (Post 5928000)
the chicks they love the lemons bono said in Rotterdam in 1997 :)

it's true! :flirt:

Brian-C 02-27-2009 03:13 PM

It almost sounds like the basis for an Angela Carter short story.


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