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BVS 12-20-2007 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2


CEO of Bain & Company (and founded Bain Capital)
CEO of 02 Winter Olympics
Governor of Massachusetts

Rudy had it right when he said Hillary has never run a city, never run a state, never run a business, never met a payroll.

Please, show me Mrs. Clinton's.

Your original question:

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And I'm not talking about issues or specific beliefs. I'm solely talking about experience and qualification to be commander-in-chief.
So being a CEO, qualifies you for commander-in-chief? Well hell then let's hire Donald Trump. And if this is all you are looking for why did your party go with Bush? Every company he touched turned to rust.

Take a look at Irvine511's post.

BVS 12-20-2007 04:36 PM

And by the way, he wasn't the founder of Bain, he was a co-founder of a spin off company Bain Capital, later returned to the original Bain.

Irvine511 12-20-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2


Please, show me Mrs. Clinton's.


her what? cock?

because that's all Mr. Giuliani seems to want this election to be run on. who can pretend like he's got the biggest and longest and who can swing it most menacingly in the face of a Mulsim or illegal immigrant or secular humanist.

these resumes are largely in the eye of the beholder. what you might consider a good notch on the belt i might consider to be a disqualifier. Rudy is an excellent example. you have to be a gigantic dickswinging asshole to govern new york city. the presidency is not the same.

the smarmy, oleaginous qualities that make one successful in the business world -- where you've got to deliver for your client, as they do in consulting -- are precisely the wrong qualities i'd want in a president.

if you want to go by resumes, then the most qualified candidate is Bill Richardson. but i'm not voting for him, and i don't think you are either.

2861U2 12-20-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar


So being a CEO, qualifies you for commander-in-chief? Well hell then let's hire Donald Trump.


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Originally posted by Irvine511


she's also a best selling author and Grammy winner.

Or we could elect Mariah Caray.


Personally, I put some value in someone being a CEO. Says to me that they are somewhat trustworthy, smart, decisive, and able to make things successful.

Irvine511 12-20-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2

Or we could elect Mariah Caray.




seriously, do you know how hard it is for me not to write, "fuck off"? because, honestly, i take the time to list a resume for you, and THIS is what you pull out? you whine about no one answering your question, then someone takes the time to do so, and THIS is how you respond?




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Personally, I put some value in someone being a CEO. Says to me that they are somewhat trustworthy, smart, decisive, and able to make things successful.

how many CEOs do you know?

2861U2 12-20-2007 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511



seriously, do you know how hard it is for me not to write, "fuck off"? because, honestly, i take the time to list a resume for you, and THIS is what you pull out? you whine about no one answering your question, then someone takes the time to do so, and THIS is how you respond?



Okay, okay, you're right. I apologize. I appreciate the information. My remark was more of a reply to BVS, not you.

phillyfan26 12-20-2007 05:19 PM

You "appreciate" it. Good.

Do you recognize it, though?

BVS 12-20-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by 2861U2

Says to me that they are somewhat trustworthy, smart, decisive, and able to make things successful.

CEOs = trustworthy?

Wow, that's a stretch.

BVS 12-20-2007 06:40 PM

I find it very interesting that conservatives would even bring up "experience" they've chosen the least experienced canidate the last several elections.

Reagan wasn't the most experienced. George Bush(OK, but he was a given being the VP). Dole, come on. And or course George W...

MrsSpringsteen 12-21-2007 12:40 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WTu7drLfRc

MrsSpringsteen 12-21-2007 12:44 PM

The Globe also endorsed Senator Obama

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Boston Herald endorsed Republican John McCain Thursday, praising the Arizona senator for his "brand of courage that is rare in the public arena these days."

The endorsement comes five days after McCain received the backing of Boston's other major newspaper, the Globe. Both papers reach a sizeable number of voters in neighboring New Hampshire.

"There are times in this nation’s history so perilous that they cry out for a steady, experienced leader, a person so trusted that we would put the fate of this country in his hands," the Herald's editorial staff wrote. "This is one of those times, and Sen. John McCain is that person."

"In an age when too many candidates are driven by polls and focus groups, fashioning and re-fashioning their ‘core’ beliefs, McCain is a man of unwavering conviction and integrity," they added. "His values, his beliefs, his goals are what they were when he first entered public life, what they were in 2000 and what they will be a decade from now."

The editorial also states the paper is breaking a "decades-old tradition" by not endorsing both a Republican and a Democratic candidate this election cycle. That decision came, wrote the editorial staff, because they agreed with Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman when he said "no one should let party lines be a barrier to choosing the person we believe is best qualified to lead our nation forward." Lieberman’s remarks came earlier this week, when he announced his own support for McCain’s candidacy.

The endorsement comes the same day an American Research Group poll out of New Hampshire shows McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney tied at 26 percent among Republican voters.

Irvine511 12-21-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by MrsSpringsteen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WTu7drLfRc


i dunno ... he does superimpose himself next to a cross, and there's lots of Jesus-y suffering connections, but he ruins it all by saying "have a blessed Christmas and a HAPPY HOLIDAY."

i think someone hates Christians.

diamond 12-21-2007 11:16 PM

How it will feel to us guys if Hillary gets elected:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w9FGD8m1w0g

BVS 12-21-2007 11:23 PM

Why do you continue to shine light on the fact that you are sexist?

U2DMfan 12-21-2007 11:47 PM

He has no shame about being severely judgemental either.

Probably something against that somewhere in the Book Of Joe Smith (The Ozark Chronicles)

U2DMfan 12-22-2007 12:28 AM

I like diamond, honestly.

He at least seems principled, which is #3 on Jesus' most important trait list.

Unfortunately, #2 is consistency.

Although he rebounds with Jesus' #1, honesty.

He'd probably be the first to admit he's a hypocrite.

Jesus passed these on to his American dog. He was a mutt, much debate but most historians agree the dog was part schnauzer. Because he hated Jews for some odd reason.
he realyed the message in Liberal, Kansas 1954.

This is all contained in books written by the prophet Steve Johnson.

martha 12-22-2007 01:35 AM

Liberal, Kansas has a very good airplane museum, and a very weird Wizard of Oz museum.

verte76 12-22-2007 08:24 AM

Yeah, Bush had only being governor of Texas as his experience. No foreign policy background at all. And yes, he screwed up every company he touched. His family bailed him out.

verte76 12-22-2007 08:26 AM

Interesting that the Boston paper also endorsed Obama.

MrsSpringsteen 12-22-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar
Why do you continue to shine light on the fact that you are sexist?
I guess he thinks it's amusing, or he'll get attention from it. I don't know, don't care either. Any kicking in the balls certain men will feel if Hillary is elected is nothing compared to what Bush has done to this country. All balls, no brain or heart or soul. Intelligent evolved men don't think with their balls.

ABC's Sunlen Miller Reports: Barack Obama has often said he'd consider putting Republicans in his cabinet and even bandied about names like Sens. Dick Lugar and Chuck Hagel. He's a added a new name to the list of possible Republicans cabinet members - Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Obama regularly says he would look to Republicans to fill out his cabinet if he was elected, but at a town hall event in Manchester, N.H., he was pushed to name names.

“It’s premature for me to start announcing my cabinet. I mean, I’m pretty confident. but I’m not all that confident. We still got a long way to go,” Obama said.

But then the GOP names started to flow.

Sen. Dick Lugar: “He’s a Republicans who I worked with on issues of arms control, wonderful guy. He is somebody I think embodies the tradition of a bipartisan foreign policy that is sensible, that is not ideological, that is based on the idea that we have to have some humility and restraint in terms of our ability to project power around the world,” Obama said about his Senate colleague.

Sen. Chuck Hagel: “A Vietnam vet, similar approach and somebody I respect in a similar fashion,” Obama added.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger: “What (he’s) doing on climate change in California is very important and significant. There are things I don't agree with him on, but he's taken leadership on a very difficult issue and we haven't seen that kind of leadership in Washington," Obama said of the California governor.

One Republican that likely Obama won’t consider? Mitt Romney.

In answering a question on immigration, Obama said it would be impossible to lock all the illegal immigrants up, even if he wanted to.

“We'd clear out some of the prisons to make room for somebody who's a housekeeper at Mitt Romney's house,” he joked. “(He’s) an example of somebody who, 'Oh, we gotta be real tough. But my lawn, you know, is important.' "


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