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jimmmm 04-24-2006 01:53 PM

Notice the Bindippers have once again covered themselves in "glory" not content with crapping into cups and chucking it at Utd fans at anfield earlier this year, the dirty bastards have scribbled Munich grafitti on hundreds of seats at OT, they really are the lowest form of pond life in the universe, the biggest laugh has got to be Euro city of culture, those bunch of self pitying, granny stabbing, drug dealing, car thieving, compensation seeking cunts wouldn't know what culture was if it smacked them in the mouth, fucking wankers!!!

1stepcloser 04-25-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by jimmmm
Notice the Bindippers have once again covered themselves in "glory" not content with crapping into cups and chucking it at Utd fans at anfield earlier this year, the dirty bastards have scribbled Munich grafitti on hundreds of seats at OT, they really are the lowest form of pond life in the universe, the biggest laugh has got to be Euro city of culture, those bunch of self pitying, granny stabbing, drug dealing, car thieving, compensation seeking cunts wouldn't know what culture was if it smacked them in the mouth, fucking wankers!!!
i supported them when thery played chelsea the other day. Although i had a very good reason to. And not just because i hate chelsea :wink:

1stepcloser 04-25-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Party Boy
Funniest own goal you will see - took place between Darlington and Bury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csQG0ZciFQ

He broke his nose aswell...

:laugh:

the rockin edge 04-25-2006 11:40 AM

chelsea out of the fa cup :combust:


now all we need is west ham to beat liverpool in the final...:drool:

yertle-the-turtle 04-25-2006 06:13 PM

Holy cow they did it.

Eliv8 04-25-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Party Boy
Funniest own goal you will see - took place between Darlington and Bury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csQG0ZciFQ

He broke his nose aswell...

Brilliant. - And he broke his nose!

Hey whats the score going to be on Saturday? I'm gonna stick my neck out and say 3-1 to United.
Is there goung to be a 'viewing party?'

babyman 04-26-2006 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by 1stepcloser


a lot of my friends think that Totti is really overrated but i think he's a great player. Everytime i see him play he lights up the pitch. He's quite arrogant and i didn't like it when he spat at Euro 2004 (i think it was that tournament) :down:

He could be a big player for Italy at the world cup.




Totti's defect is that he's a too much Rome phenomenon, he actually has never done with the national team what he does with Rome. It's a high limit, this worldcup is his last last last chance to explode as a great player, otherwise he will remain what he is. A regional idle

babyman 04-26-2006 07:57 AM

Good to see Arsenal in the final, but yestarday they did a scandalous game, nearly offending football. It was a full defense game, they did neither a miserable shot! Very low level, if they play so against Barça or Milan they will have not a half chance to win............................very disappointing game

the rockin edge 04-26-2006 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by babyman
Good to see Arsenal in the final, but yestarday they did a scandalous game, nearly offending football. It was a full defense game, they did neither a miserable shot! Very low level, if they play so against Barça or Milan they will have not a half chance to win............................very disappointing game
yeah, shamefull stuff from arsenal. :tsk: bad penalty by riquelme (sp?) right at the end.

babyman 04-27-2006 07:59 AM

Barcelona also bad :down: :down:

Very very disappointing game.....................I'm not so excited about the final anymore......................it's more than obvious that it's gonna be a 1-0 game.............................Couldn't awate something worst, Barça and Arsenal were ridiculous......................:tsk:

Party Boy 04-27-2006 02:22 PM

As an Arsenal fan am completely delighted we got to CL final. Sure we played crap but you know what, we played the way Italian teams have played for years. We defended what we had ( a 1-0 lead). I think the players were so aware of what was at stake, that they were afraid to take chances.

The final will be a different game altogether. As both teams start out level, its there to be won, not lost - as both teams normally play offensive football.

Semi-finals are always notoriously tense. Teams who are winning are not going to take un necessary chances which might lead them to scoring a goal. The onus to attack is on the team who is losing.

And it was so not a penalty.

Paris here we come!

the rockin edge 04-27-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by babyman
Barcelona also bad :down: :down:

Very very disappointing game.....................I'm not so excited about the final anymore......................it's more than obvious that it's gonna be a 1-0 game.............................Couldn't awate something worst, Barça and Arsenal were ridiculous......................:tsk:


shouldn't you be happy that ac milan are out? :wink:

barca were much better than arsenal, i mean they actually attacked somewhat. not one of their best performances though.

i think the final should be good, and i'd be suprised if it's 1-0 really.

babyman 04-28-2006 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Party Boy
As an Arsenal fan am completely delighted we got to CL final. Sure we played crap but you know what, we played the way Italian teams have played for years.


This is nothing than a general prejudice with italian teams, matured in the times when frustrated teams could never beat italian teams who won and won in the past years. Go and look at Sacchi's Milan in the 80's and say to me if it was a defense team, go and look at Lippi's Juventus in 90's, at Lippi's Inter (even though he failed with us), at Fabio Capello's Rome and Juventus, at Ancelotti's Milan since 5 years until today, at Mancini's Inter who plays regularly with Adriano, Martins or Recoba, Stankovic, Veron and Figo! Wow, 5 forward players!......................At our national team, (except the Trapattoni era, who was more than defensive) who is a full attack team who plays with Del Piero, Totti, Gilardino and Toni............4 forward players.................................In the 70's we played with players such Mazzola, Boninsegna, Bettega, Riva, Rivera who were scoring goals after goals, in 1982 we've won the Worlchampionship beating in order Argentina, Brasil, Poland (wo was a great team at that time, Gomulka and Boniek, just 2 names) and Germany. And we had players such Paolo Rossi, Conti, Tardelli who run like formula1 cars. Not talking about the generation of Roberto Baggio, Gianluca Vialli, Giannini, Signori................
Isn't it a bit strange that Sacchi, Lippi, Capello, Ancelotti have so many incredible requests from the half world? Everyone want them because they're masters in offensive football. That Italy's football was or is defensive is nothing else than a false legend, invented by all the ones who could never beat italian teams. Many foreigners have learned in Italy football. History speaks alone, when Germany won the Worldchampionship in 1990 players like Matthaeus, Brehme, Klinsmann, Voeller, Kohler, Haessler and many other were playing in Italy, when France won in 1998 Zidane, Deschamps, Desailly, Dugarry and many others were playing in Italy since years. Still today we got the greatest foreign champions that other countries can only dream, Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic, Adriano, Kakà, Shevchenko etc etc
And more, Italy had PLATINI, MARADONA, VAN BASTEN, GULLIT, the same Rijkaard plus an infinite list of players who weren't just offensive players, but more...............................the fake theory that italian football was or is defensive is weak, sorry, too weak, ungenerous, groundless at least.........................................

babyman 04-28-2006 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by the rockin edge



shouldn't you be happy that ac milan are out? :wink:





No doubt at all.......................................:wink: :wink:

Party Boy 04-28-2006 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by babyman




This is nothing than a general prejudice with italian teams, matured in the times when frustrated teams could never beat italian teams who won and won in the past years. Go and look at Sacchi's Milan in the 80's and say to me if it was a defense team, go and look at Lippi's Juventus in 90's, at Lippi's Inter (even though he failed with us), at Fabio Capello's Rome and Juventus, at Ancelotti's Milan since 5 years until today, at Mancini's Inter who plays regularly with Adriano, Martins or Recoba, Stankovic, Veron and Figo! Wow, 5 forward players!......................At our national team, (except the Trapattoni era, who was more than defensive) who is a full attack team who plays with Del Piero, Totti, Gilardino and Toni............4 forward players.................................In the 70's we played with players such Mazzola, Boninsegna, Bettega, Riva, Rivera who were scoring goals after goals, in 1982 we've won the Worlchampionship beating in order Argentina, Brasil, Poland (wo was a great team at that time, Gomulka and Boniek, just 2 names) and Germany. And we had players such Paolo Rossi, Conti, Tardelli who run like formula1 cars. Not talking about the generation of Roberto Baggio, Gianluca Vialli, Giannini, Signori................
Isn't it a bit strange that Sacchi, Lippi, Capello, Ancelotti have so many incredible requests from the half world? Everyone want them because they're masters in offensive football. That Italy's football was or is defensive is nothing else than a false legend, invented by all the ones who could never beat italian teams. Many foreigners have learned in Italy football. History speaks alone, when Germany won the Worldchampionship in 1990 players like Matthaeus, Brehme, Klinsmann, Voeller, Kohler, Haessler and many other were playing in Italy, when France won in 1998 Zidane, Deschamps, Desailly, Dugarry and many others were playing in Italy since years. Still today we got the greatest foreign champions that other countries can only dream, Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic, Adriano, Kakà, Shevchenko etc etc
And more, Italy had PLATINI, MARADONA, VAN BASTEN, GULLIT, the same Rijkaard plus an infinite list of players who weren't just offensive players, but more...............................the fake theory that italian football was or is defensive is weak, sorry, too weak, ungenerous, groundless at least.........................................


Mate, I think you have gone a little overboard. I can go back to years past to discuss the merits of the top european soccer leagues.
You have the greatest foreign champions that other countries can only dream of? Says who? How many Italian based players were in the top 5 in the list of the worlds top players?
Ibrahimovic? Adriano? your kidding me right? If you call them top players - based on waht I have seen of them, then you are in trouble.
Italy had Platini, Maradona, Van Basbten, Gullit. So what? Where did they come from? They werent in Itally all their career.

Am sorry if you disagree but watching Italian soccer is like watching chess. Teams don't attack - its boring to watch. Spanish, French, German, Frence, even dutch, is much more exciting as teams try to win games by playing exciting football. Italian football is based on defence first. I am talking about football today, not football 10,15, 20 years ago.

roy keane 04-28-2006 12:39 PM

I'd rather watch chess all day than Juve for 5 minutes.And Party Boy , I almost entirely agree with you and that almost is because of Adriano. He IS top player.

babyman 04-29-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Party Boy




How many Italian based players were in the top 5 in the list of the worlds top players?



Uff, who cares about lists? You know better than me that they're made about sympathy that worldwide journalists have, come on, lists don't have any bases at all

babyman 04-29-2006 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Party Boy





Italy had Platini, Maradona, Van Basbten, Gullit. So what? Where did they come from? They werent in Itally all their career.



Of course they weren't all their career in Italy, but they played their best years in Italy, they had in Serie A their success. They reached the top in Italy. When Maradona came at Naples he was thrown away from Barcelona, almost as a failed player........................wow, smart people that ones....................Platini, Van Basten and Gullit won all they have won in their career in Italy, with what other teams did they won anything? (except national teams)But I wanted to mean that italian managers have been always smart by taking the best players they could find in other countries, these names were just a few examples, I could begin with Omar Sivori and end with Kakà. Other countries haven't seen these kind of generations of players, you can't deny this.....................................

babyman 04-29-2006 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by Party Boy





Am sorry if you disagree but watching Italian soccer is like watching chess. Teams don't attack - its boring to watch. Spanish, French, German, Frence, even dutch, is much more exciting as teams try to win games by playing exciting football. Italian football is based on defence first. I am talking about football today, not football 10,15, 20 years ago.


Sacred points of view, no problem at all. Simply we see it different, you talk about football today, ok, I could agree, but you must also admit that in general football is today on a true mediocre line. So I find no difference by watching games of Real Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal, Barcelona, Inter or Juventus.............they all play mediocre, there isn't a team that plays with a real team spirit right now, every team bases on the power of the singles player..........for example what would be Barcelona without Ronaldinho? What would be Arsenal without Henry? There is not an unanimous spirit, there are teams where 2 players make the difference while the others just watch the game. This wasn't the football of past years, when 11 players run behind a ball for 90 minutes. Remember France with Giresse, Tigana, Fernandez, Platini etc....................Remember Argentina with Maradona, Burruchaga, Valdano etc. Generations changed a lot, and football of today is ALL boring. So, if you talk about italian football being based on defense, then I have refreshed memories with a bit of history, to show you that italian football wasn't based on defense at all..............but it's a classic, italians always were unpleasant, so there's no surprise about anymore.
I don't know if Italy will do a fine Worldcup, maybe we could go out after the first round, maybe we could win, but one is more than sure, we got a super team and a super coach, in the last 2 years Italy has lost just 2 times and has kicked ass of "offensive" national teams like Holland and Germany for 3-1 and 4-1. Italy plays 4-3-3 with DelPiero, Totti, Gilardino, Toni and Camoranesi.....................5 forward players...........................if you say this is a defense team, then I take my hat off, really.......................................:)


PS: Chess is a game where you attack...........................;)
I like it , too

1stepcloser 04-29-2006 12:14 PM

Birmingham City have been relegated!!!

:laugh: :applaud: :dancing: :giggle: :rockon: :hyper: :bonodrum: :dance: :up: :drool:

PARTY tonight!


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