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Old 06-11-2017, 03:12 PM   #201
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lol, what a silly thread

Mind you, I'm no new music hater, but whatever "hits" they have from their new album, they're likely going to pale in comparison to side 2 of The Joshua Tree.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.

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lol, what a silly thread

Mind you, I'm no new music hater, but whatever "hits" they have from their new album, they're likely going to pale in comparison to side 2 of The Joshua Tree.

Mind you, I didn't say the songs were weak- but to any casual fan 5 of those songs in a row in the LATTER of the show is a horrible idea. This is why bands play their "classic" stuff towards the middle.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.









Mind you, I didn't say the songs were weak- but to any casual fan 5 of those songs in a row in the LATTER of the show is a horrible idea. This is why bands play their "classic" stuff towards the middle.


I have always considered b-sides to be the other sides of singles releases - usually non album tracks. Whereas album tracks on side 2 were usually stronger than b-sides (so to warrant inclusion on an album), but not usually the radio friendly hits. The side 2 of Joshua Tree has strong songs - heck, they were going to release Red Hill as as the second single back in 87. Honestly, I think the piano and horns arrangement of RHMT sucks some life out of the show though. But I think it comes back with IGC.
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I have always considered b-sides to be the other sides of singles releases - usually non album tracks. Whereas album tracks on side 2 were usually stronger than b-sides (so to warrant inclusion on an album), but not usually the radio friendly hits. The side 2 of Joshua Tree has strong songs - heck, they were going to release Red Hill as as the second single back in 87. Honestly, I think the piano and horns arrangement of RHMT sucks some life out of the show though. But I think it comes back with IGC.
They were going to until the record company said no, and put it on the B-side. This has been a strategy used by record companies since the beginning of time; I said the songs were great, but to put all 5 in a row in the latter stages of the concert is not the way to keep the energy up.
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I didn't notice any energy drop during side 2 of the Joshua Tree at the Rose Bowl. I actually did see some mental wandering during ASOH, which was infuriating, but it seemed to me the vast majority of the people there knew exactly what RHMT and OTH were, and those were the sides of the bridge, the posts that held the bridge up, not "out there" songs at all. In God's Country was virtually a single, and got its share of play. And the awesome versions of Exit and Trip carried the crowd who might have been otherwise ambivalent.


It HAD to be presented in order. I would have been very disappointed to have that run of songs as I listened to them so many times chopped up and put next to Elevation. The "JT" period of the show worked on so many levels.
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Old 06-13-2017, 01:07 PM   #206
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And I love the arrangement of RHMT...it is the revelation for me on this tour, and I keep checking in on Periscope every night, not to hear Streets or WOWY, but to hear RHMT. If I have nothing going on, I will stick around for the "B side" or side 2 (I think of B sides as the back side of singles, not side 2 of an album). I think the re-telling of RHMT is brilliant, and something about the way he sings the chorus and the delay like on the album 1st chorus...it just slays me.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.


False.

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They were going to until the record company said no, and put it on the B-side.


False again, are you just making shit up now?
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Albums aren't (weren't) commonly referred to as A side and B side. They were side 1 and side 2. And the material on side 2 was not automatically the weaker material on an album.

Singles have A and B and the B side is intended as space filler or a bonus as much as anything, not the case with albums.

just so happens in the case of Joshua Tree that Side 1 has the songs that are more popular with average folks, but its not industry practice to put weaker material on side 2.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.
No it's not.

Also based on my vinyl copy of Joshua Tree it's side three and four - but your results may vary.
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Yeah, side 1 and 2 (and onwards) is used for albums and A/B side is for singles.

Bono's even been making a point of saying "welcome to side 2" every night after Red Hill.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.


Yeah, no.
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This tour is EXACTLY what I wanted.
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Just getting ready to see U2 in Toronto then in Boston.

I love whatever U2 decide to play. I hope they always play the songs that are important and meaningful to them a the stage of their life.

I'm just grateful they're still around playing and I'll keep attending shows and loving whatever they do as long as they want to do it.
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Old 06-24-2017, 02:29 PM   #214
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God, I hope they bring back "A Sort of Homecoming" to NJ N1, along with "Bad". Seems the first few shows of the tour got the very best setlists so far, and the only ones with 23, not 22 songs...
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This is NOT what we wanted

Since this is the complaints department I figured I could leave mine here.

I get the decision to play the album in full, but it makes the show completely front loaded starting with SBS and other big songs. Both nights in NJ, I could tell it was hard for a lot of the crowd around me to recover from sitting down during almost the entire back half of the JT and then starting the encore with Miss Sarajevo. My buddies that I went with (and have been to other shows with before that have had an awesome time) went from a ridiculous high of "this is the best concert" to boredom of the songs they didn't know as well from the back of JT to "Bono is the worst" during his preaching/politics especially during Miss Sarajevo and Ultraviolet. Definitely the least enjoyable concert I've seen from them. I just think the concert goes from "this is great" to "ok I've had enough get me out of here" rather quickly.
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My buddies that I went with (and have been to other shows with before that have had an awesome time) went from a ridiculous high of "this is the best concert" to boredom of the songs they didn't know as well from the back of JT to "Bono is the worst" during his preaching/politics especially during Miss Sarajevo and Ultraviolet.
How did they enjoy the other shows if the band does the preaching/politics thing every show?
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How did they enjoy the other shows if the band does the preaching/politics thing every show?


I think they laid in on a little thicker this time around with the America theme tie in of JT.
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yeah, the last three shows were pretty awesome.
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Since this is the complaints department I figured I could leave mine here.

I get the decision to play the album in full, but it makes the show completely front loaded starting with SBS and other big songs. Both nights in NJ, I could tell it was hard for a lot of the crowd around me to recover from sitting down during almost the entire back half of the JT and then starting the encore with Miss Sarajevo. My buddies that I went with (and have been to other shows with before that have had an awesome time) went from a ridiculous high of "this is the best concert" to boredom of the songs they didn't know as well from the back of JT to "Bono is the worst" during his preaching/politics especially during Miss Sarajevo and Ultraviolet. Definitely the least enjoyable concert I've seen from them. I just think the concert goes from "this is great" to "ok I've had enough get me out of here" rather quickly.
that was my experience. a half-baked show thrown together to support their contract obligations, and inspired by a lack of quality new material and a recognition that there are a lot of heritage fans with fat wallets ready to re-experience TJT.
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Since this is the complaints department I figured I could leave mine here.

I get the decision to play the album in full, but it makes the show completely front loaded starting with SBS and other big songs. Both nights in NJ, I could tell it was hard for a lot of the crowd around me to recover from sitting down during almost the entire back half of the JT and then starting the encore with Miss Sarajevo. My buddies that I went with (and have been to other shows with before that have had an awesome time) went from a ridiculous high of "this is the best concert" to boredom of the songs they didn't know as well from the back of JT to "Bono is the worst" during his preaching/politics especially during Miss Sarajevo and Ultraviolet. Definitely the least enjoyable concert I've seen from them. I just think the concert goes from "this is great" to "ok I've had enough get me out of here" rather quickly.
One of the guys in my group at the Cleveland show is a casual fan, who actually knows more about HTDAAB and SOI then he does about TJT and AB. He had the same reaction. I admit that even as a super fan who was very excited to hear tracks 6-11 live for the first time, I thought the flow and the energy was very poor for a stadium concert. Then once they hit the BD/ELevation/Vertigo/Mysterious Ways foursome, it was like both the band and the crowd came back to life. I could tell that they really didn't care to be playing IGC, for example, but were very excited to be playing Elevation and Vertigo. You could just tell from their body language.

That said, I loved the show, and I will be seeing it again in Indianapolis!
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