2017 Joshua Tree Tour Stage Design
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gareth brown
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Well to be fair I never said people shouldn't get the spots they lined up for. It goes without saying that if you turned up and sat in line like a normal person, you've earned that spot and no-one can take it away from you. It's that Exalted High Council who write up their own list, reserve their spots then leave for most of the day who are taking the piss.
But a fucking special fenced off area for those people to come and go as they please on the GA floor as well?? Give me a fucking break.
A small minority of fans already have a pretty sweet racket going on, with tacit approval from the band/venues, it doesn't need making any worse.
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ouizy
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Thanks - puts my mind at ease as I have never been lucky enough to score a GA ticket to any tour since 1987...
Now, can we get back to discussing stage design here and not about lists, line controllers, and other such boring topics?
I use a ticketing platform at work, as we have a 5,000 seat performance center and a smaller 1,000 seat hall... and the institution only wants one platform to everyone so that they can track purchase history and contributions and all that good stuff.
Anyhoo... because of the design of the software, when I sell an enrollment in a class or for a basketball team or whatever, I have to "seat" the person, even though there's no seat (and it isn't even a performance)... but that's the way the software is built and how they track sales, so the person gets a seat number.
GA's are the same... they need some way of tracking the sales so that the software knows what's left, so they end up putting section and seat numbers on the tickets, even though the section and seat number doesn't actually exist... it's just how th software is built.
Anyhoo... because of the design of the software, when I sell an enrollment in a class or for a basketball team or whatever, I have to "seat" the person, even though there's no seat (and it isn't even a performance)... but that's the way the software is built and how they track sales, so the person gets a seat number.
GA's are the same... they need some way of tracking the sales so that the software knows what's left, so they end up putting section and seat numbers on the tickets, even though the section and seat number doesn't actually exist... it's just how th software is built.
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ouizy
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jaimearodriguez
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Well to be fair I never said people shouldn't get the spots they lined up for. It goes without saying that if you turned up and sat in line like a normal person, you've earned that spot and no-one can take it away from you. It's that Exalted High Council who write up their own list, reserve their spots then leave for most of the day who are taking the piss.
But a fucking special fenced off area for those people to come and go as they please on the GA floor as well?? Give me a fucking break.
I hear you. Unfortunately, you and I know that we can't have one without the other. The line nazis are a necessary evil I would argue.
d.darroch
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How about you argue the point somewhere else. As Ouizy has already said, this threads is about stage design.
What's asymmetrical, the main stage, or the location of the catwalk? One video of the main stage made the it look asymmetrical, but I think that was just parallax error. Other than the few little curves I think the main stage is symmetrical. Have a look at the front-on picture that we've seen (approx. 12 overhead lights on the straight sections of the screen, on stage left & right. Approx. 20 overhead lights on the central V section). The b-stage being off-centre was the case for both ZooTV & PopMart. Yeah, think it works well with the GA throng right in front of the band, pushing RZ a little bit to the side.
The screen for Vertigo outdoor was curved, but quite similar. Guess it gives the band a little more room, & also gives those seats with very side-on views a better view of a section of the screen.
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ouizy
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How about you argue the point somewhere else. As Ouizy has already said, this threads is about stage design.
What's asymmetrical, the main stage, or the location of the catwalk? One video of the main stage made the it look asymmetrical, but I think that was just parallax error. Other than the few little curves I think the main stage is symmetrical. Have a look at the front-on picture that we've seen (approx. 12 overhead lights on the straight sections of the screen, on stage left & right. Approx. 20 overhead lights on the central V section). The b-stage being off-centre was the case for both ZooTV & PopMart. Yeah, think it works well with the GA throng right in front of the band, pushing RZ a little bit to the side.
The screen for Vertigo outdoor was curved, but quite similar. Guess it gives the band a little more room, & also gives those seats with very side-on views a better view of a section of the screen.
The asymmetry I was referring to was where the B-Stage is located. It's ramp runs off the Edge's side of the stage, not down the middle like IE...
Interesting photo from Jimyc: that definitely looks like the back of a set piece.
Have any more???
I wonder if the Joshua Tree image we saw from the videos in Houston is either translucent, comes down, or is actually painted on the screen pannels similar to how PopMart was painted on the PopMart screen.
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ouizy
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Took this a few minutes ago. View is now totally obscured by video panels.
Uh, how are you able to get these, and can you get others from other angles (inside the bowl???)
These are taken through the glass outside the venue looking into the concourse. There are two areas where you can see "things." The entrance at gate C sec 227 & 228. These are behind the stage. The only other place you can see anything is at gate E sec 243.
There is a hotel & casino under construction attached to the venue so they have access to gate F G H blocked off. From there one would be looking at the front of the stage. So unfortunately that's all there is.
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d.darroch
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Haha, beat me to it
so, uh, there's the screen - that's popmart sized
prbiker15
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1) Interesting that the screen doesn't light up all the way to the top.
2) Red Zone isn't that big.
3) Wonder if those lights behind the speakers lower any further or just stay there hidden.
4) I now understand what Willie meant when the B-stage is technically the shadow of the tree.
2) Red Zone isn't that big.
3) Wonder if those lights behind the speakers lower any further or just stay there hidden.
4) I now understand what Willie meant when the B-stage is technically the shadow of the tree.
it's basically the 1987 stage, minus the "clam shell" part of the stage, plus a video screen in place of the "tree" canvas. with a b stage.
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ouizy
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I'm kind of loving the simplicity of it, just hope the graphics on the screen aren't cheesy like the I.E. tour.
Let's let these songs speak for themselves.
Curious though what is the deal with the tree set piece at the top of the screen.
Let's let these songs speak for themselves.
Curious though what is the deal with the tree set piece at the top of the screen.
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That snapchat pic angle makes the stage look tiny. Like a cosy arena stage.
Hallucination
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He's absolutely right. If you don't believe it than you've either never waited in one of these lines or you've only done so on a rare occasion and were lucky enough to not have witnessed it. . I've seen it multiple times(NYC, Montreal and Toronto) where a specific group of people who happen to be well known fans, have this sense of entitlement, this ego and arrogance that they are more deserving of the prime spots. It's a big reason why I've chosen less and less to wait in line for GA and buy seated tickets instead. In Montreal it was disgusting how fans got on the rail, linked arms and bullied anyone other than their friends out of the area and yes this group of people were "famous" U2 fans. Celebrities in their own mind. So if myself and the person wanted the spot we got to first it was actually going to cause a fight so we just moved over about 30 feet. Pathetic behaviour from fans.
ntalwar
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It's actually bigger than on the TM charts, where it ended a bit after the ramp.
gunsnroses
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Is that Popmart size? That is just normal size now.
trevgreg
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I'm sort of happy that I didn't deal with too much drama the two times I did GA on the last tour. I'm wondering if the stadium situation will change that at all... lesser shows and more people and all.
gunsnroses
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Is that Popmart size? That is just normal size now.
Hallucination
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It looks like the same style of screen from the Invisible music video
Wait til they do the 30th anniversary popmart tour and recreate the lemon
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