How Come Love Is Blindness works as a closer, but MOS doesn't? - Page 2

cobl04 · 07-11-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by No spoken words

I've been to 10 360 shows, and was at about 10 Zoo TV shows....and, yeah, neither really worked better than the other. I think a lot of people are ascribing attributes to Love is Blindness that aren't entirely accurate, maybe because they love AB so much or just have good memories associated with the album/song. And that's fine, I'm sure I'm guilty of that as well with certain tunes. It's a nice song, I definitely like it, but it's so very much eclipsed by everything that comes before it.....

The best U2 closer is, was and always will be 40.

Stop spoiling my delusion!!!!!!!!

Utoo · 07-11-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

They probably had to go get in line for the next show, which was a week away.

True, true

BlueSilkenSky · 07-11-2011, 06:51 PM

Probably because Love Is Blindness was more part of a group encore- I mean, the succession of songs (Desire/Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car, Ultraviolet/LEMON!, With or Without You, Love Is Blindness, Can't Help Falling In Love) works a lot better and gets more caught up in emotion than the sucession of songs in 360 encores (Ultraviolet/HMTMKMKM, With or Without You, Moment of Surrender). Maybe it's because MOS is an average song that follow two great ones (say what you want about WOWY). OR, maybe it's true, Love Is Blindness is just a better song than Moment of Surrender.

catlhere · 07-11-2011, 08:28 PM

I think MOS > LIB, by quite a bit.

silkensky · 07-11-2011, 09:01 PM

MOS would work better I think if NLOTH (the album) had actually been incorporated into the production of the tour sort of the way AB was to Zoo TV. It might translate better in an arena rather than a stadium too, IMHO.

cobl04 · 07-12-2011, 05:59 AM

I don't agree with that. Achtung is a (loose) concept album. NLOTH is not.

Earnie Shavers · 07-12-2011, 06:37 AM

Also perhaps for some in the audience, MOS could be a let down with the set up? As said above, LIB was part of a flowing run of songs, but Bono does the whole get your phones out/milky way thing for MOS, so people might be thinking oh, here's a Big Moment, which surely will include a Big U2 Anthem, and then what the hell is this? Maybe. But I can't really comment. I haven't seen a 360 show, only Glastonbury, and MOS was like a ten tonne lead balloon there. Half the pit was on the move out once it kicked in.

cobl04 · 07-12-2011, 06:39 AM

Kite was a phenomenal closer.

Earnie Shavers · 07-12-2011, 06:45 AM

Yep. And it worked with the wider punters too. I mean, again, not a very well known song, and one that is already not a hookfestanthemsong, and on top of that they played it in an even more meandering way, and it was absolutely a highlight, and seemingly not just for fans, going by my own anecdotal whatever (at one of those Sydney gigs, my work had a huge block of seats, and about 90% of the office were there, so we were all talking about it the next day - Kite was a clear highlight/talking point.)

mellow moog · 07-12-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by catlhere

I think MOS > LIB, by quite a bit.

Love is Blindness to me was the most incredible closing song, along with the falsetto Can't help falling in Love ending!!! I can close my eyes and be back at all those ZOOTV shows when I hear it.

Moment of Surrender is great live but Love Is Blindness took it to a level I don't think we'll ever see matched!!!! Edge's solo in LIB !!! "Let me in THAT sound" again please guys for one more time before I shuffle off!!! Go an ya wil.. ya will"

nirniva · 07-12-2011, 10:31 AM

I honestly love MOS as the closer.

prbiker15 · 07-12-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nirniva

I honestly love MOS as the closer.

Same here, thought it worked great at my show. The crowd was into it, but at the same time it felt odd ending on a down note.

Pop Artist · 07-12-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Utoo

I understand it when casual fans who got tickets from their brother-in-law's coworker's nephew leave early, but it always amazes me when more die-hard fans leave early. At the Baltimore show, there were two or three guys in front of us on the outer rail, which meant they'd camped out all day. They also had their own homemade 360 Tour tshirts listing all the shows they'd been to---probably a dozen or more spanning a few continents. And they left after Streets!

To each his own, I guess.

They might not have left the stadium entirely, but just went to the back to be in good position to get a jump on leaving when it was over - I've done that. Also while I have stayed to the bitter end on some shows, I have been guilty of starting to make my way out (you still hear everything) at the end of WOWY to get a jump on things...

It's not because MoS is a bad song, it's because of 60-90000 people leaving all at once, leaving a few minutes early often saves an hour getting home...people are gonna leave during the final song regardless of what it is.

Hollow Island · 07-12-2011, 04:51 PM

Love is Blindness is a better song, and it has one of the best guitar solos ever. And Can't Help Falling In Love closed Zoo TV anyway. MOS is a good song, but it's pretty ponderous and it's a downer. It doesn't have the release that LIB has. Or the campy beauty of ICHFIL.

Montrose · 07-12-2011, 04:56 PM

In Montreal, MOS worked astonishingly well as the closer, at least on the second show.

d.darroch · 07-12-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cobl04

Kite was a phenomenal closer.

This

Oh, that didge!

07-11-2011, 08:28 PM	#24
catlhere Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,665 Local Time: 06:44 PM	I think MOS > LIB, by quite a bit. and a better closer

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07-11-2011, 06:51 PM	#23
BlueSilkenSky Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dancing out in space Posts: 5,735 Local Time: 08:44 PM	Probably because Love Is Blindness was more part of a group encore- I mean, the succession of songs (Desire/Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car, Ultraviolet/LEMON!, With or Without You, Love Is Blindness, Can't Help Falling In Love) works a lot better and gets more caught up in emotion than the sucession of songs in 360 encores (Ultraviolet/HMTMKMKM, With or Without You, Moment of Surrender). Maybe it's because MOS is an average song that follow two great ones (say what you want about WOWY). OR, maybe it's true, Love Is Blindness is just a better song than Moment of Surrender.

07-11-2011, 09:01 PM	#25
silkensky War Child Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena, California Posts: 535 Local Time: 01:44 AM	MOS would work better I think if NLOTH (the album) had actually been incorporated into the production of the tour sort of the way AB was to Zoo TV. It might translate better in an arena rather than a stadium too, IMHO.

07-12-2011, 05:59 AM	#26
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,235 Local Time: 12:44 PM	I don't agree with that. Achtung is a (loose) concept album. NLOTH is not.

07-12-2011, 06:37 AM	#27
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 01:44 AM	Also perhaps for some in the audience, MOS could be a let down with the set up? As said above, LIB was part of a flowing run of songs, but Bono does the whole get your phones out/milky way thing for MOS, so people might be thinking oh, here's a Big Moment, which surely will include a Big U2 Anthem, and then what the hell is this? Maybe. But I can't really comment. I haven't seen a 360 show, only Glastonbury, and MOS was like a ten tonne lead balloon there. Half the pit was on the move out once it kicked in.

07-12-2011, 06:39 AM	#28
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,235 Local Time: 12:44 PM	Kite was a phenomenal closer.

07-12-2011, 06:45 AM	#29
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 01:44 AM	Yep. And it worked with the wider punters too. I mean, again, not a very well known song, and one that is already not a hookfestanthemsong, and on top of that they played it in an even more meandering way, and it was absolutely a highlight, and seemingly not just for fans, going by my own anecdotal whatever (at one of those Sydney gigs, my work had a huge block of seats, and about 90% of the office were there, so we were all talking about it the next day - Kite was a clear highlight/talking point.)

07-12-2011, 10:31 AM	#31
nirniva Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Da U.P., eh? Posts: 4,459 Local Time: 09:44 PM	I honestly love MOS as the closer.

07-12-2011, 04:51 PM	#34
Hollow Island New Yorker Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,947 Local Time: 08:44 PM	Love is Blindness is a better song, and it has one of the best guitar solos ever. And Can't Help Falling In Love closed Zoo TV anyway. MOS is a good song, but it's pretty ponderous and it's a downer. It doesn't have the release that LIB has. Or the campy beauty of ICHFIL.

07-12-2011, 04:56 PM	#35
Montrose Acrobat Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 499 Local Time: 08:44 PM	In Montreal, MOS worked astonishingly well as the closer, at least on the second show.