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Old 01-07-2009, 11:25 AM   #21
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It'll take way toooooo long to do that. I'll just pick & choose I guess.

Ok, you have me thoroughly confused...

The songs you own right now, where else do you want to play them besides your computer or iPod?
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I have about 3,000 songs in my library. A crap load! Now, I'd say about half or so are from CD's that I've imported. Don't care about those... it's the ones that I've purchased from the iTunes store. Some are albums others are single songs. So let's say I want to free them up to play them in my DJ program that I have... well, now I would have to pay around $450.00 to free them up.... @ 0.30 cents... that's a lot of money.... and I own them! Does that make sense?
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something like that. I just think that its a bit unfair that you have already paid for them, they are yours and now to free them up and play them freely anywhere else, you have to pay more $$$. Rediculous...
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I have about 3,000 songs in my library. A crap load! Now, I'd say about half or so are from CD's that I've imported. Don't care about those... it's the ones that I've purchased from the iTunes store. Some are albums others are single songs. So let's say I want to free them up to play them in my DJ program that I have... well, now I would have to pay around $450.00 to free them up.... @ 0.30 cents... that's a lot of money.... and I own them! Does that make sense?
But you're also getting a higher quality file, not just getting them unprotected. You technically don't have to pay to get them unprotected, others have already told you how to do that if you wanted to. So, you're paying $.30 to get better sound quality and no file protection. And, actually, if you look at the sound quality that most songs on iTunes are: 192kbps and what you're getting for .30 cents more: 256kbps, you're getting about a 1/4 more kbps for 1/3 more than you originally paid for it, if that makes sense. Of course, the improvement in kbps doesn't work that way at all, but if you have a decent pair of headphones (aka not the iPod buds), you will most definitely be able to tell the difference between those two sound qualities anyway. Is that worth the $.30 to you?

And please, Apple is a business just like any other company, of course they're going to charge for an upgrade in quality such as this one. It's pretty obvious that they're out to make money.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:57 PM   #24
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It takes too long to burn a CD? If you're too lazy to do that, then you might as well pay the .30 per song.

It's not being lazy... It doesn't make sense for me to have to take that step when I'm sure they can write a tool to just do an update and unlock every song in your library that you've ever purchased. If my pal was able to unlock all of the U2 box set a few years ago... they can certainly do it but they rather charge you for it.
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I just checked and my upgrade would cost about $85.

Complete U2 isn't included, btw. Only U2 thing it would upgrade is HTDAAB.
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But you're also getting a higher quality file, not just getting them unprotected. You technically don't have to pay to get them unprotected, others have already told you how to do that if you wanted to. So, you're paying $.30 to get better sound quality and no file protection. And, actually, if you look at the sound quality that most songs on iTunes are: 192kbps and what you're getting for .30 cents more: 256kbps, you're getting about a 1/4 more kbps for 1/3 more than you originally paid for it, if that makes sense. Of course, the improvement in kbps doesn't work that way at all, but if you have a decent pair of headphones (aka not the iPod buds), you will most definitely be able to tell the difference between those two sound qualities anyway. Is that worth the $.30 to you?

And please, Apple is a business just like any other company, of course they're going to charge for an upgrade in quality such as this one. It's pretty obvious that they're out to make money.
I hear what you are saying. Does the quality matter to me.... mmmm a bit but c'mon. 0.30 cents starts to add up when you have a lot of songs. Apple are bastards! I know that they like to charge for everything. It would be nice of them to just do an update with a tool.... since you've already spent a shit load of money to begin with purchasing a lot of songs.
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I just checked and my upgrade would cost about $85.

Complete U2 isn't included, btw. Only U2 thing it would upgrade is HTDAAB.

C'mon, your not gonna tell me that $85.00 is not a lot of money.
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C'mon, your not gonna tell me that $85.00 is not a lot of money.
Yeah, I doubt I am ever going to do it. I can't really afford it right now and honestly I don't think it's worth it to me.

And that's only the library on this laptop, I have a much bigger one on my main computer.
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Apple are bastards! I know that they like to charge for everything.

Microsoft woulda done it for free.
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And that's only the library on this laptop, I have a much bigger one on my main computer.
The upgrade has nothing to do with what is in your current library; it's based on your iTunes purchase history.
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Microsoft woulda done it for free.
I have several tracks with Microsoft DRM on them that I bought from 7digital and other vendors. Those stores have switched to unprotected MP3, but none of them has offered me any option to upgrade.

I've tried redownloading and I just get the same protected WMA file again. If you want to upgrade you have to buy the track at full price.

Did the Zune Marketplace offer free upgrades when they went DRM-free?
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The upgrade has nothing to do with what is in your current library; it's based on your iTunes purchase history.
Oh, right
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Sooo.... lets say that I've bought a crap load of stuff already in a different PC but now I have a different one with an external drive. How exactly will that work... based on my "purchase history"?
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My comment about Microsift was a joke, folks.
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My comment about Microsift was a joke, folks.
lol.... yeah, I got that.
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Sooo.... lets say that I've bought a crap load of stuff already in a different PC but now I have a different one with an external drive. How exactly will that work... based on my "purchase history"?
Your only option is to upgrade everything (or at least everything that is currently available in iTunes plus) you've ever bought from iTunes, assuming you used the same account on both machines.

Well, the other option of course is NOT to upgrade.
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Your only option is to upgrade everything (or at least everything that is currently available in iTunes plus) you've ever bought from iTunes, assuming you used the same account on both machines.

Well, the other option of course is NOT to upgrade.
Yeah, same account... I'll pick and choose I guess. This sucks!
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i guess i'm not understanding that the big deal is about having to pay the small fee to upgrade. sure, it'd be nice if they weren't charging for it, but i wouldn't have expected it to be a free service. personally, i won't bother upgrading not because of the price, but because i honestly don't hear a difference between the two file types. i just don't have an ear for that stuff.
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It's not that it's a big deal really. The way I see it, I've spent a lot of cash buying songs from the store. Now, they will offer everything DRM-free. As a loyal customer I would think that for those who have paid for songs already... why not do a free update? I think it's fare. Now, I checked to see how much it would be to upgrade what I have so far and it would be like $80.00. That's a lot of money. .30 cents might be measly but its adds up. True that you can't really tell the difference in quality but the only reason that I started to consider upgrading but now I'm having second doubts is because I want to be able to play them on my Dj program. Can anybody relate to that why I think its a bit unfair?
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