Bond 23 - SKYFALL - November 2012

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You did remind me, I wasn't thinking about the theme songs. A few talented people there too, though nobody on Deakins' tier.

MACCA!

But really, Louis Armstrong n shit.
 
Still think Quantum is a great, lean well put-together film. Probably prefer it to Royale at this point.

:hi5:

Why is it we typically agree on 'controversial' things like this?


Also LMP, Quantum of Solace I guess sounded like a pretentious science fiction-y title to some, in vocabulary terms it's just 'A Measure of Comfort' which fit the movie to a T without being that blunt. But as we've proven with the mention of pretty much every title controversy, you certainly can't please everyone, especially in the vast Bond fanbase.
 
Yeah, the film as a whole doesn't have the kinetic or structural grace some of the Hollywood masters (De Palma, Fincher, etc) would bring to a project like this, but it's an effectively visceral, emotionally clear, and stylistically bold (for Bond) movie that has a very unique sort of shaggy identity to it. Would like to revisit it some time soon, actually.

To me QoS was the perfect bridge between the old Bond and the CR era Bond, it brought back the GLOBAL CONSPIRACY! SECRET TERROR ORGANIZATION! geopolitical threat of the old era without lessening the edgy modern feel and allowing too much of the cheese back in, Almaric's character is classic bond without going all cat-stroking/secret evil lair ridiculous while having a clearly shown modern scheme (Mikkelsen's Le Chiffre was a fun personality, but we knew little of his actual threat other than 'arms dealing') Gemma Aterton's character felt like a nod to the Bond girls of old (which would have been even more clear had they kept the character's name, Strawberry Fields, in the final cut) paired w/ Olga Kurylenko as the most atypical, strong 'Bond girl' who isn't seduced by him & actually had some depth. I was hoping they'd bring her back like was rumored prior to the MGM bankruptcy.

The pace is unrelenting, it's the sucker punch action revenge from the CR proceedings, and with the possible exception of Licence to Kill we've never seen Bond go off like this (yet at the same time he manages to earn his respected hero of the realm status more than he ever did in CR), and Forster's look makes it the most stylish Bond film ever. Perhaps Mendes can bring more pathos to the proceedings, but only Roger Deakins can help him keep this from being a big step back in this department.

Plus, it wins praise simply for the ridiculous typefaces. Especially making the audience think 'La Paz' was written on the airport sign when really it was yet another location sign.

I'd say the one flaw is that he brought that distinctive edge to a film that is essentially the second half of Casino Royale rather than a standalone film.
 
If anything, Skyfall is bound to be extremely stylish... just looking at films like Road to Perdition and Revolutionary Road, and Deakins is shooting this one digitally which I'm very excited about.
 
True, I'll give you Road to Perdition (I've only seen RR once when it was first released and was paying too close attention to the performances/nitpicking the adaptation of one of my favorite novels to pay much attention to the look other than vaguely remembering its attempt to match the style of the time), I didn't mean to imply it'd be as inert as the Pierce Brosnan era movies or even Casino Royale, just that it isn't likely to match the distinction of QoS.

Though, I forgot until you mentioned it that the Mendes/Deakins collaboration didn't start until Jarhead.
 
Javier Bardem is the villain:

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So the Brosnan-Craig Bond movies finally might get a good villain, worthy of Connery-Moore times ?

:up:

I just hope Skyfall is better than Quantum of Solace...
 
Hope this is better than Quantum, which was a heck of a lot of running around and explosions for me to only ask myself when it was over, "What did this movie actually accomplish?"

If Casino Royale was a high-end hooker, Quantum of Solace was hiring the same girl for a repeat visit, but getting drunk and passing out in the hotel suite before anyone starts getting it on. :shrug:
 
Hope this is better than Quantum, which was a heck of a lot of running around and explosions for me to only ask myself when it was over, "What did this movie actually accomplish?"

If Casino Royale was a high-end hooker, Quantum of Solace was hiring the same girl for a repeat visit, but getting drunk and passing out in the hotel suite before anyone starts getting it on. :shrug:


Quantum of Solace was a great movie.

Just not a Bond movie, if you know what I mean.
 
C'mon guys, the movie just released and nobody's talking about it?

Watched it last night and loved it immensely :drool: Seriously, it might even surpass Casino Royale for me :ohmy:

...maybe :shifty:


But yeah, regardless of where it ranks in the Bond pantheon, everyone should check it out. It's at least the most visually appealing of the Bond films :eek:
 
Psyched.

Seeing it at some point this weekend, might even be tonight. I don't know?!? I don't know if we'll have enough TIME!!!!!
 
I've heard a few comments from friends on Facebook that it was amazing.

I'm seeing it on Sunday.
 
I loved it. Daniel Craig is just so smoking hot as Bond. And the chemistry between him and the woman who plays Moneypenny is off the charts, they should have had more of that. I liked that she was not just the typical Bond "girl". Looks wise and intelligence wise, etc. Even though they didn't develop her character all that much. I was never into the old Bond movies. I did like Pierce Brosnan as Bond , but I think Daniel owns that role now.

Those movies are just pure escapism, and Skyfall is that too. Honestly they never really stay with me that much to compare, but I remember I also loved Casino Royale.

And Javier Bardem- so campy and creepy. Sam Mendes did a good job directing - it was easy to follow, visuals were pretty, and it didn't seem as long as it was.
 
I'm a little torn. Some of it is sublime, both in it's technical qualities & it's acting/emotional heft, but there's so much weak connecting material that undermines it a bit for me. I'm also rather torn on how much it hits the beats of bringing back the old Bond movie elements that Casino Royale & QoS did so well with avoiding.

The screenwriting is kind of weak to me, the setup of the villain (and no mention of where his wordless band of constantly replenished followers come from, he's only motivated by a personal need for revenge semi-masquearaded as anti-establishmentism, so where does he attract this following from?) the whole handling of the hacking element, the dialog going back into so many quips and Bond even taking a moment in a dangerous situation to make a quip to NO ONE. I did like the humor, loved Naomie Harris, the way the screenplay intimated so much about Bond's past with so little (and how Craig handled it and each of the various sides of Bond's personality that are touched on in this movie, which are many). Also loved their treatment of Q, and I'm a big fan of Ben Whishaw and he does a great job here. Q's line about exploding pens stole the movie for me though. Bernice Marhole was kind of a non-entity compared with the depth of character they gave Olga Kurylenko in the last one, but she certainly looked gorgeous in that dress. Weird they cast a half-Asian actress & proceeded to strongly play up her features with the eye makeup.

Also was anyone else weirdly reminded of Batman Begins several times? The train smashing through concrete structures, the villain destroying the orphaned protagonists old, ancestral home, etc. Then look at Bardem's character & tell me he's not Julian Assange crossed with Ledger's Joker (with perhaps a little bit of Lisbeth Salander for good measure). Interesting how much inspiration Nolan takes from Bond, & now how much Bond has taken from him.

I'm also torn on the look of it, everyone was ready to worship the cinematography the day Deakins signed on, but overall I'd say Quantum of Solace had a more distinctive look to it, still more than any other Bond film (for QoS this goes beyond just cinematography, down to the graphic design of typography & invented user-interfaces for MI6). There certainly are sequences where Skyfall's photography blows away any other 007 film, the Shanghai sequence, Bond's approach to the casino in Macau, the whole Scotland denouement from Bond & M on the moor all through the night & especially the fiery haze surrounding the climactic moments; but outside of that & a few other shots it was more standardly composed, traditionally lit & occasionally throwing in some striving for iconography shots that seemed a bit strained for me (the long shot of M & the coffins, Bond from behind staring out over the old city of London, etc.). It's almost like they could only afford Deakins on the action scenes as the connective tissue between set pieces sticks out as significantly less interesting & could have been shot by a second unit on auto-pilot. Of course then again maybe Quantum has the edge here for me since 90% of that movie was action scenes :wink:. But the opening credits were something special, I was a bit reminded of Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol in how we were given a flash forward view of the film from the start in hints.

Thomas Newman's score was a pretty big let down for me except in a few choice moments, I wonder if David Arnold will end up with his job back since Mendes isn't sticking around for another installment.
 
I pretty much agree. I didn't put that much thought into it. I just know this was not as enjoyable as the first two with Craig. The screenplay is paper thin. A few beautiful shots does not add up to a great film. Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol is a much better film.
 
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