Anime and/or manga lovers?

youtooellen · 02-05-2009, 08:51 AM

Don't hate on the cartoons speaking in different languages.

Perhaps good recommendations?

Right now, I watch Bleach and Naruto-- the only two shows that I'm always updated with.
Other shows I saw/recommend:

- Death Note (Japanese version is beyond better than the shitty American rendition)
- Elfien Lied (incredible show... so fucking twisted that it's great)
- Serial Experiments Lain (similar to the Matrix concept but pretty intense; slow show but very thought-provoking)
- Paranoia Agent (I haven't watched it yet but it sounds pretty cool, a lot of people recommend it, so I thought about recommending it.. haha)

A bunch that I have on my 'Anime to watch' list are: One Piece, Full Metal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, Gantz, Chobits, Gunslinger Girl, and so on.

I searched the threads in the past and found one anime-related topic.... from 2003. I thought about bumping it, but I figured I could just start an updated version.

So any fans out here?

(If you want to insult the topic, please, leave this thread. There are some who thoroughly enjoy it.)

elevated_u2_fan · 02-05-2009, 09:05 AM

I likes me some Anime...

I have barely seen any of the newer ones but off the top of my head besides the holy trilogy of Anime (Akira, Ghost In The Shell and Princess Mononoke) I have seen:

-Berserk
-Rurouni Kenshin
-X
-Fruits Basket
-Neon Genesis Evangelion
-Escaflowne
-Trigun
-Blue Seed
-Helsing
-Lain
-Countless others...

I know a couple of others around here watch it; Lance, Beav, Unico and LJT come to mind.

youtooellen · 02-05-2009, 10:31 AM

^ nice!

I've never heard of the holy trinity...

You've seen (Serial Experiments?) Lain? (same Lain as the one I previously mentioned or something different?)

I don't think I'll ever get over Death Note though... fucking crazy ass shit.

If you haven't watched that, I strongly suggest you do.

elevated_u2_fan · 02-05-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by youtooellen

I've never heard of the holy trinity...

You've never watched Akira, Ghost In The Shell or Princess Mononoke?? You should watch those ones.

Quote:

You've seen (Serial Experiments?) Lain? (same Lain as the one I previously mentioned or something different?)

Same thing, it was alright, a little too slow paced for my taste.

Quote:

I don't think I'll ever get over Death Note though... fucking crazy ass shit. If you haven't watched that, I strongly suggest you do.

My friend was mentioning this one, I think I will check it out.

Zoobaby14 · 02-05-2009, 10:49 AM

Just a quick question:

If it is a Japanese movie with American voices is it still Anime?

elevated_u2_fan · 02-05-2009, 11:13 AM

Is it animated and was it made in Japan but now has English dubbed dialogue?

The Sad Punk · 02-05-2009, 11:57 AM

Grave of the Fireflies and Porco Rosso are pretty much my two favourite anime movies, both from Studio Ghibli . The former in particular is a must watch.

Lancemc · 02-05-2009, 12:07 PM

*points to av and sig*

I love me some anime too. Ghost in the Shell is just...

And Miyazaki is virtually a god.

lazarus · 02-05-2009, 12:10 PM

I'm a huge Miyazaki/Ghibli fan, favorites are Nausicaa and Spirited Away, also Grave of the Fireflies.

Another great who hasn't been mentioned is Satoshi Kon (Paprika, Millennium Actress, Perfect Blue).

Cowboy Bebop is a must-see, Evangelion was fantastic, and anyone watch the old Robotech/Macross stuff?

Lancemc · 02-05-2009, 12:12 PM

I've seen a little Satoshi Kon. Fantastic work. Looking forward to seeing more.

Seen a little Bebop too. Funky stuff.

Guess it's worth mentioning Nausicaa is my favorite Miyazaki film. Maybe even favorite anime feature all together.

lazarus · 02-05-2009, 12:33 PM

I also just ordered this serial called Baccano! that looks like one hell of a mindfuck.

Anyone seen this?

youtooellen · 02-05-2009, 12:48 PM

A lot of the anime mentioned are stuff that I never heard of. I'm so very happy ya'lls be recommendin' shiettt.

I just watched episode 13 of Chobits. It's kind of lame, but I'm really enjoying it. Some funny stuff in there. One of the great things about anime is that they overexaggerate certain emotions (like embarrassment) and I absolutely love it.

Those moments always bring out a chuckle from me.

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Originally Posted by Zoobaby14

Just a quick question:

If it is a Japanese movie with American voices is it still Anime?

Yes, but it is called "the horrendous American remake"...

I hate it when it's dubbed with English. I can't stand the monotonous voices and the terrible lack of enthusiasm.

elevated_u2_fan · 02-05-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Evangelion was fantastic, and anyone watch the old Robotech/Macross stuff?

up untill the end

Robotech

I've never watched any of the Macross stuff though, is it any good?

Zoobaby14 · 02-06-2009, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan

Is it animated and was it made in Japan but now has English dubbed dialogue?

I'm not to sure, when I did japanese in school we watched a movie called Spirited away, and another one with Dekota Fanning doing the voice over, which i can't remeber the name.

We also watched Salior Moon, which has english dialouge. Is that classed as anime?

The Sad Punk · 02-06-2009, 07:46 AM

I would consider any animation of a certain type that happened to have been made in Japan (and occasionally other nearby countries) to be anime, even if it has English dub-overs for international editions - Sailor Moon and Spirited Away were originally in Japanese, for instance, Zoobaby.

elevated_u2_fan · 02-06-2009, 08:16 AM

SP is right, both are considered anime because they were made in Japan and originally dubbed in Japanese. Almost all anime nowadays comes with both the English dub track and the original (and superior in most cases) Japanese track thanks to DVD.

The only time I can stand an English track now is if I originally was exposed to the movie or show in English first. When I first saw Akira, Ghost In The Shell and Princess Mononoke they were all in English. While I think the Japanese track is better, I can handle them in English.

Speaking of, Lance, have you ever watched Battle Angel in English? I bought a VHS copy years ago for a bargain price but when I got home and started watching I realized why – it was in English

After seeing it first in Japanese it was terrible, I only managed to watch the first 10 minutes before turning it off.

The Sad Punk · 02-06-2009, 08:25 AM

Actually, on that note, sometimes dubs can be better than the original... I honestly found the Mexican dub of Dragon Ball Z more tolerable than the Japanese one.

youtooellen · 02-06-2009, 09:05 AM

^ my friend was telling me that in the Japanese one the voices are high pitched, whereas the English one the voices are masculine.

The Sad Punk · 02-06-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youtooellen

^ my friend was telling me that in the Japanese one the voices are high pitched, whereas the English one the voices are masculine.

Yes, they do sound rather high-pitched, but I can't say the English ones are much more "masculine" - rather comically exaggerated. The script changes in the English version tended to be shitty, too.

elevated_u2_fan · 02-06-2009, 09:55 AM

yeah, the English voice actors tend to go from dull lifeless reading to painfully cheesy overacting

02-05-2009, 08:51 AM	#1
youtooellen New Yorker Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,580 Local Time: 05:58 PM	Anime and/or manga lovers? Don't hate on the cartoons speaking in different languages. Perhaps good recommendations? Right now, I watch Bleach and Naruto-- the only two shows that I'm always updated with. Other shows I saw/recommend: - Death Note (Japanese version is beyond better than the shitty American rendition) - Elfien Lied (incredible show... so fucking twisted that it's great) - Serial Experiments Lain (similar to the Matrix concept but pretty intense; slow show but very thought-provoking) - Paranoia Agent (I haven't watched it yet but it sounds pretty cool, a lot of people recommend it, so I thought about recommending it.. haha) A bunch that I have on my 'Anime to watch' list are: One Piece, Full Metal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, Gantz, Chobits, Gunslinger Girl, and so on. I searched the threads in the past and found one anime-related topic.... from 2003. I thought about bumping it, but I figured I could just start an updated version. So any fans out here? (If you want to insult the topic, please, leave this thread. There are some who thoroughly enjoy it.) __________________

02-05-2009, 09:05 AM	#2
elevated_u2_fan Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm here 'cus I don't want to go home Posts: 31,964 Local Time: 05:58 PM	I likes me some Anime... I have barely seen any of the newer ones but off the top of my head besides the holy trilogy of Anime (Akira, Ghost In The Shell and Princess Mononoke) I have seen: -Berserk -Rurouni Kenshin -X -Fruits Basket -Neon Genesis Evangelion -Escaflowne -Trigun -Blue Seed -Helsing -Lain -Countless others... I know a couple of others around here watch it; Lance, Beav, Unico and LJT come to mind. __________________

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elevated_u2_fan Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm here 'cus I don't want to go home Posts: 31,964 Local Time: 05:58 PM	yeah, the English voice actors tend to go from dull lifeless reading to painfully cheesy overacting __________________

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02-05-2009, 10:31 AM	#3
youtooellen New Yorker Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,580 Local Time: 05:58 PM	^ nice! I've never heard of the holy trinity... You've seen (Serial Experiments?) Lain? (same Lain as the one I previously mentioned or something different?) I don't think I'll ever get over Death Note though... fucking crazy ass shit. If you haven't watched that, I strongly suggest you do.

02-05-2009, 10:49 AM	#5
Zoobaby14 War Child Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sydneeeyyy! Posts: 568 Local Time: 10:58 PM	Just a quick question: If it is a Japanese movie with American voices is it still Anime?

02-05-2009, 11:13 AM	#6
elevated_u2_fan Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm here 'cus I don't want to go home Posts: 31,964 Local Time: 05:58 PM	Is it animated and was it made in Japan but now has English dubbed dialogue?

02-05-2009, 11:57 AM	#7
The Sad Punk Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VEGA INTL NITE SKOOL Posts: 28,702 Local Time: 08:28 AM	Grave of the Fireflies and Porco Rosso are pretty much my two favourite anime movies, both from Studio Ghibli . The former in particular is a must watch.

02-05-2009, 12:07 PM	#8
Lancemc Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ba Sing Se Posts: 17,691 Local Time: 06:58 PM	points to av and sig I love me some anime too. Ghost in the Shell is just... And Miyazaki is virtually a god.

02-05-2009, 12:10 PM	#9
lazarus Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 42,084 Local Time: 03:58 PM	I'm a huge Miyazaki/Ghibli fan, favorites are Nausicaa and Spirited Away, also Grave of the Fireflies. Another great who hasn't been mentioned is Satoshi Kon (Paprika, Millennium Actress, Perfect Blue). Cowboy Bebop is a must-see, Evangelion was fantastic, and anyone watch the old Robotech/Macross stuff?

02-05-2009, 12:12 PM	#10
Lancemc Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ba Sing Se Posts: 17,691 Local Time: 06:58 PM	I've seen a little Satoshi Kon. Fantastic work. Looking forward to seeing more. Seen a little Bebop too. Funky stuff. Guess it's worth mentioning Nausicaa is my favorite Miyazaki film. Maybe even favorite anime feature all together.

02-05-2009, 12:33 PM	#11
lazarus Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 42,084 Local Time: 03:58 PM	I also just ordered this serial called Baccano! that looks like one hell of a mindfuck. Anyone seen this?

02-06-2009, 07:46 AM	#15
The Sad Punk Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VEGA INTL NITE SKOOL Posts: 28,702 Local Time: 08:28 AM	I would consider any animation of a certain type that happened to have been made in Japan (and occasionally other nearby countries) to be anime, even if it has English dub-overs for international editions - Sailor Moon and Spirited Away were originally in Japanese, for instance, Zoobaby.

02-06-2009, 08:16 AM	#16
elevated_u2_fan Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm here 'cus I don't want to go home Posts: 31,964 Local Time: 05:58 PM	SP is right, both are considered anime because they were made in Japan and originally dubbed in Japanese. Almost all anime nowadays comes with both the English dub track and the original (and superior in most cases) Japanese track thanks to DVD. The only time I can stand an English track now is if I originally was exposed to the movie or show in English first. When I first saw Akira, Ghost In The Shell and Princess Mononoke they were all in English. While I think the Japanese track is better, I can handle them in English. Speaking of, Lance, have you ever watched Battle Angel in English? I bought a VHS copy years ago for a bargain price but when I got home and started watching I realized why – it was in English After seeing it first in Japanese it was terrible, I only managed to watch the first 10 minutes before turning it off.

02-06-2009, 08:25 AM	#17
The Sad Punk Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VEGA INTL NITE SKOOL Posts: 28,702 Local Time: 08:28 AM	Actually, on that note, sometimes dubs can be better than the original... I honestly found the Mexican dub of Dragon Ball Z more tolerable than the Japanese one.

02-06-2009, 09:05 AM	#18
youtooellen New Yorker Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,580 Local Time: 05:58 PM	^ my friend was telling me that in the Japanese one the voices are high pitched, whereas the English one the voices are masculine.