You plant a demon seed...

Klaus · 10-22-2002, 03:44 PM

...You raise a flower of fire?

I read the folowing lines today in the New York Times:
(Written By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF)

..Sure, the Saudi monarchy bears some responsibility for fundamentalist Islamic terrorists. King Faisal, together with the United States, deliberately nurtured fundamentalist Islam in the 1960's as a counterweight to Nasserists and leftists. It was Saudi Arabia that, at America's request, backed the jihad against Soviet troops in Afghanistan, thus forming the basis for Al Qaeda.

Later, prestige-seeking Saudi businessmen wrote checks to radical Islamic charities, financing the spread of radical Islam in much of the Islamic world in the same way that zealous but misguided Americans helped underwrite I.R.A. terrorism in the 1970's and 1980's, as our own government pretended not to notice. Read Margaret Thatcher's memoirs and you find the same kind of outrage at American financing of Irish terrorism that we feel at Saudi complicity in Islamic terrorism.
...

What do you think? Did the wrong politics of our fathers mess it up?

Klaus

The Wanderer · 10-22-2002, 08:56 PM

Political mistakes can be traced all the way back to Caesar & beyond, it doesn't excuse the actions of those in the present and future.

Klaus · 10-30-2002, 04:18 PM

it doesn't excuse anything - but it's can be the reason.

Klaus

Macphistophela · 10-31-2002, 06:47 PM

Klaus, you are truly an interesting being.

Klaus · 11-01-2002, 07:51 PM

Thanks Macphistophela

BigMacPhisto · 11-02-2002, 12:46 PM

Ah! Another MacPhisto! I knew it would come down to this! However, this forum IS big enough for the two of us, so don't have any worries.

And to stay on topic, I agree with The Wanderer.

us3 · 11-02-2002, 06:20 PM

....u get rosemary's baby!

10-22-2002, 03:44 PM	#1
Klaus Refugee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: on a one of these small green spots at that blue planet at the end of the milky way Posts: 2,432 Local Time: 10:11 AM	You plant a demon seed... ...You raise a flower of fire? I read the folowing lines today in the New York Times: (Written By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF) ..Sure, the Saudi monarchy bears some responsibility for fundamentalist Islamic terrorists. King Faisal, together with the United States, deliberately nurtured fundamentalist Islam in the 1960's as a counterweight to Nasserists and leftists. It was Saudi Arabia that, at America's request, backed the jihad against Soviet troops in Afghanistan, thus forming the basis for Al Qaeda. Later, prestige-seeking Saudi businessmen wrote checks to radical Islamic charities, financing the spread of radical Islam in much of the Islamic world in the same way that zealous but misguided Americans helped underwrite I.R.A. terrorism in the 1970's and 1980's, as our own government pretended not to notice. Read Margaret Thatcher's memoirs and you find the same kind of outrage at American financing of Irish terrorism that we feel at Saudi complicity in Islamic terrorism. ... What do you think? Did the wrong politics of our fathers mess it up? Klaus __________________

10-22-2002, 08:56 PM	#2
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 04:11 AM	Political mistakes can be traced all the way back to Caesar & beyond, it doesn't excuse the actions of those in the present and future. __________________

11-02-2002, 06:20 PM	#7
us3 The Fly Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 165 Local Time: 01:11 AM	....u get rosemary's baby! __________________

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10-30-2002, 04:18 PM	#3
Klaus Refugee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: on a one of these small green spots at that blue planet at the end of the milky way Posts: 2,432 Local Time: 10:11 AM	it doesn't excuse anything - but it's can be the reason. Klaus

10-31-2002, 06:47 PM	#4
Macphistophela Babyface Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 7 Local Time: 01:11 AM	Klaus, you are truly an interesting being.

11-01-2002, 07:51 PM	#5
Klaus Refugee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: on a one of these small green spots at that blue planet at the end of the milky way Posts: 2,432 Local Time: 10:11 AM	Thanks Macphistophela

11-02-2002, 12:46 PM	#6
BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,313 Local Time: 04:11 AM	Ah! Another MacPhisto! I knew it would come down to this! However, this forum IS big enough for the two of us, so don't have any worries. And to stay on topic, I agree with The Wanderer.