WTF possessed that woman to beat up her child like that?????!!!

mad1 · 09-20-2002, 07:26 AM

This morning on GMTV, British TV, had a live link to LA where the reporter showed the CCTV footage of the mother beating her daughter almost endlessly earlier that day in a car-lot............mum and I were like

................(yea I was pissed on before for opening a thread similar to this, dont do it again, Im curious on responses).......anyway, yes as we all know a lot of this goes on all over the place behind closed doors, but like, if she just so happens to see herself caught, shes BOUND to hide, right? That poor child............I heard LA police are huntin before she damages the kid...........................oh my g*d, watchin her punch, beat, kick........etc...........one of the most hated woman in LA now......

sure sure, a lot of parents prob nearly lose their temper, even show a bit, from frustration, but that is crossing the line!

some of u will prob put it down to overstress from frustration...I duuno........its no excuse though.........

is all I can say, no surprise like, but

at seeing it caught........

Angela Harlem · 09-20-2002, 09:16 AM

Well, I dont think you have to be a mother yourself to have a valid and legitimate opinion on this for starters. I haven't seen what you are talking about here maddie, but you are unfortunately right when you say it happens, and too often too. Once is too often after all.
I think regardless of exterior circumstances it is going too far. Everybody loses their temper. We all get pushed to our absolute limit and no doubt at all, a child is best equipped to push you as far as they possibly can. It is never EVER justified to beat a child as you describe this woman as doing. Never. It goes beyond losing control. It goes beyond losing your temper. Sudden rage that most people feel when they are pushed to their limit in most 'healthy' reactionary situations is extremely short lived. I expect this video shows this woman engaging in this appalling behaviour for a few minutes? The violence you posted about her actions is not that of a mother who has lost her temper. It indeed shows a lot more going on. It is extreme abuse and can never be tolerated.
I will with hold opinion on smacking etc. I dont think it falls under the same category. But beating your child? Its disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. The mentally well and stable do not beat children.

mad1 · 09-20-2002, 09:21 AM

Mum said, (because it was repeated at least three times during the program), 'Come and see this quick!' AngelaHarlem I just ran in and in those few seconds saw the woman trying to put her in the back seat and (probably) belt her in, but she started slapping her and then looked like she was punching her rapidly several times on body or face!

Mum said just previous the mother had her on the floor (of the car I presume) beating her hard......probably using hard whacks with her hand or fist.........

CCTV never zoomed in, but it was close enough.

*edited for typo

bono_luvva · 09-20-2002, 11:26 AM

thats awful......do you know if the mother had like a mental problem or something coz thats one of the only things i can can think of that would make a mother hit her child.....

BAW · 09-20-2002, 11:27 AM

It actually happened in South Bend Indiana...aparently the mother tried to return to some merchandise to a store and was denied. The store was suspicious and had security cameras follow her to the parking lot. I think they were trying to get her license plate number when she started beating the 4 year old girl.

My guess is she was mad because the store wouldn't take back the allegedly stolen items so she took it out on the little girl.

The CCTV camera was able to get her license plate number and contacted her family, who were very uncooperative. They have her name and have now arrested her sister, who was in the car and did nothing to stop the beating.

I can only imagine what that poor kid goes through at home

I hope they catch that

and treat her the same way she treated her own child. I could not believe the way she not only slapped her but she pulled her hair and then finished up by punching her in the head 3 times with a closed fist.

HeartlandGirl · 09-20-2002, 02:26 PM

My sister works for the Department of Human Services, and I can assure you, I've heard way worse than this. It's very sad, and the reasons behind it are complex. I guess the best the average person can do is report any isolated incidents to the authorities. Child abuse of all kinds is a big problem.

deep · 09-20-2002, 02:43 PM

On my local news last night it showed this. It is really bad. They got the license plate number off the car. The authorities went to the house and the person who owns the car is not the evil doer on the tape. The person would not give any information.

The child needs to be removed, the parent needs counseling and to be closely monitored if this child is in her custody again.

Moonlit_Angel · 09-22-2002, 04:16 PM

Wow...I haven't seen this footage, but...that's just wrong! How in the world can a mother do that to her own child?

Sadly she's not alone...I know some people I talk to online who live in abusive households. What has happened to the world? What is up with parents beating up their children? I don't understand it.

Angela

bonoman · 09-23-2002, 12:02 AM

Hey maddie she's irish. And they say she's a tinker, or wha they are calling her over here, a Irish Travaler, or what we know them as tinkers. She has lived in many a places and even talks with a bit of a accent. They had this one cunt on saying that all Irish Travelers are theives. It gives Irish a bad name becasue we all know that all Irish are'nt like that.

Oh and hey how about those Armagh boys!!!....Anyone of who beats Kerry are allright to me. Up the North...!!!

mad1 · 09-23-2002, 07:58 AM

Bonoman...........yes, Irish Travellers do still exist, have done for years and years, we had them up beside Central Train Station in their caravans on wastleland for oh, good couple of years or so, til they were kicked off.........prob do thieve ya know....but sure in South lots do still exist.........

as for ur second paragraph, I dont have a fuking clue what ur one about......must be a rant u just went on.....or somethin

pinkfloyd · 09-23-2002, 09:14 AM

i saw it , it happens , i truly belive she's a good mother and a good girl , was not lucky , caught on tape on her bad day , i'm sure she's sorry and will never do this again , Monsters are who showed this everywhere on TV with fury of fucking vampires , and now they want to destroy the family , child's future etc etc ,

**KhanadaRhodes** · 09-23-2002, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bono's American Wife
It actually happened in South Bend Indiana...aparently the mother tried to return to some merchandise to a store and was denied. The store was suspicious and had security cameras follow her to the parking lot. I think they were trying to get her license plate number when she started beating the 4 year old girl.

My guess is she was mad because the store wouldn't take back the allegedly stolen items so she took it out on the little girl.

thanks for clarifying...i was thinking there was another one that happened in LA and i was like

anyway, i guess someone interviewed her or something, cuz on the radio this morning they were saying she's so sorry, and is basically almost surprised and mad that people are juding her for this 15 seconds of footage.

she said she didn't take out the fact that she couldn't return 2 pairs of blue jeans on her child. they (it was a kohl's) also said she was angry when she left the store.

yeah. she didn't take it out on her child. suuuuuuure.

cell · 09-23-2002, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pinkfloyd
i saw it , it happens , i truly belive she's a good mother and a good girl , was not lucky , caught on tape on her bad day , i'm sure she's sorry and will never do this again , Monsters are who showed this everywhere on TV with fury of fucking vampires , and now they want to destroy the family , child's future etc etc ,

a good mother will never beat the living shit out of her child. come on...thats bullshit. i am a mother of a six year old. i would take my own life before doing something so terrible to my baby!!
overreaction on my part? no. i can't fathom someone doing something so horrific to their child, and then someone else making some lame-ass "mother had a bad day" excuse. I have bad days all the time! do i beat my child senseless?? No!!

BAW · 09-23-2002, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nellie

a good mother will never beat the living shit out of her child. come on...thats bullshit. i am a mother of a six year old. i would take my own life before doing something so terrible to my baby!!
overreaction on my part? no. i can't fathom someone doing something so horrific to their child, and then someone else making some lame-ass "mother had a bad day" excuse. I have bad days all the time! do i beat my child senseless?? No!!

Exactly how I feel about it nellie. This is not normal and most mothers would never dream of doing this to a child, no matter how mad you are or what a bad day you've had. This woman is a petty criminal who was pissed because she couldn't get a refund and her daughter was easier to hit than the store clerk. I would bet money its not the first time she's done it and if she wouldn't have been caught, probably not the last.

And what about her sister, the little girl's aunt, who sat by and did nothing to stop this? That alone tells me that this was normal behavior in that family. If I saw my sister hitting my niece like that, I would do everything I could to stop her, including calling the police. Bad day or whatever...the mother needs to learn self control.

**KhanadaRhodes** · 09-23-2002, 03:41 PM

i've heard she's also pleading innocent now.

the way i see it, having a child should give you some maturity and get a better hold on your temper. it doesn't automatically come with the birth of your kid, but you should love your child so much you wouldn't want to do anything to hurt it, etc. i think this should be a factor in determining whether or not this lady should have the right to raise her daughter.

oktobergirl · 09-23-2002, 05:43 PM

that girl is NOT a good mother.

she needs major help...

I hope she gets jail time.

The kid will be better off........

Holy John · 09-23-2002, 05:49 PM

I don't why that story has gone on international TV. The same thing would have happened in France, Germany or South Africa and no one would have cared

pinkfloyd · 09-23-2002, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oktobergirl
that girl is NOT a good mother.

she needs major help...

I hope she gets jail time.

The kid will be better off........

Well to destroy child , mother , and family future ...right

NOT ........

cell · 09-23-2002, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Holy John
I don't why that story has gone on international TV. The same thing would have happened in France, Germany or South Africa and no one would have cared

maybe, its because some countries are not all that verbal about child abuse in the home, where here in the u.s....we just don't put up with that shit. i don't know, just a theory i have. either way, it should not have happened. no child should ever have to be beaten...not even at the hand of his/her own mother.

cell · 09-23-2002, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pinkfloyd

Well to destroy child , mother , and family future ...right

NOT ........

i dont understand what your saying here...maybe you can explain more in detail how the baby will have any kind of future with that woman. am i missing something here? she beat her child! and she's probably done it before! if she's not stopped, she will end up killing the baby!

09-20-2002, 07:26 AM	#1
mad1 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2001 Location: Angie Jolie lover from Belfast Norn Ireland. I LOVE YOU ANGIE! Im a Bono fan! Posts: 13,165 Local Time: 10:16 AM	WTF possessed that woman to beat up her child like that?????!!! This morning on GMTV, British TV, had a live link to LA where the reporter showed the CCTV footage of the mother beating her daughter almost endlessly earlier that day in a car-lot............mum and I were like ................(yea I was pissed on before for opening a thread similar to this, dont do it again, Im curious on responses).......anyway, yes as we all know a lot of this goes on all over the place behind closed doors, but like, if she just so happens to see herself caught, shes BOUND to hide, right? That poor child............I heard LA police are huntin before she damages the kid...........................oh my g*d, watchin her punch, beat, kick........etc...........one of the most hated woman in LA now...... sure sure, a lot of parents prob nearly lose their temper, even show a bit, from frustration, but that is crossing the line! some of u will prob put it down to overstress from frustration...I duuno........its no excuse though......... is all I can say, no surprise like, but at seeing it caught........ __________________

09-20-2002, 09:16 AM	#2
Angela Harlem Jesus Online Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: a glass castle Posts: 30,163 Local Time: 09:16 PM	Well, I dont think you have to be a mother yourself to have a valid and legitimate opinion on this for starters. I haven't seen what you are talking about here maddie, but you are unfortunately right when you say it happens, and too often too. Once is too often after all. I think regardless of exterior circumstances it is going too far. Everybody loses their temper. We all get pushed to our absolute limit and no doubt at all, a child is best equipped to push you as far as they possibly can. It is never EVER justified to beat a child as you describe this woman as doing. Never. It goes beyond losing control. It goes beyond losing your temper. Sudden rage that most people feel when they are pushed to their limit in most 'healthy' reactionary situations is extremely short lived. I expect this video shows this woman engaging in this appalling behaviour for a few minutes? The violence you posted about her actions is not that of a mother who has lost her temper. It indeed shows a lot more going on. It is extreme abuse and can never be tolerated. I will with hold opinion on smacking etc. I dont think it falls under the same category. But beating your child? Its disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. The mentally well and stable do not beat children. __________________ __________________

09-23-2002, 03:41 PM	#15
KhanadaRhodes Paper Gods Forum Administrator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: a vampire in the limousine Posts: 60,683 Local Time: 04:16 AM	i've heard she's also pleading innocent now. the way i see it, having a child should give you some maturity and get a better hold on your temper. it doesn't automatically come with the birth of your kid, but you should love your child so much you wouldn't want to do anything to hurt it, etc. i think this should be a factor in determining whether or not this lady should have the right to raise her daughter. __________________

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09-20-2002, 09:21 AM	#3
mad1 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2001 Location: Angie Jolie lover from Belfast Norn Ireland. I LOVE YOU ANGIE! Im a Bono fan! Posts: 13,165 Local Time: 10:16 AM	Mum said, (because it was repeated at least three times during the program), 'Come and see this quick!' AngelaHarlem I just ran in and in those few seconds saw the woman trying to put her in the back seat and (probably) belt her in, but she started slapping her and then looked like she was punching her rapidly several times on body or face! Mum said just previous the mother had her on the floor (of the car I presume) beating her hard......probably using hard whacks with her hand or fist......... CCTV never zoomed in, but it was close enough. *edited for typo

09-20-2002, 11:26 AM	#4
bono_luvva The Fly Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 82 Local Time: 10:16 AM	thats awful......do you know if the mother had like a mental problem or something coz thats one of the only things i can can think of that would make a mother hit her child.....

09-20-2002, 11:27 AM	#5
BAW The Flower Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The OC....!!!! Posts: 11,094 Local Time: 02:16 AM	It actually happened in South Bend Indiana...aparently the mother tried to return to some merchandise to a store and was denied. The store was suspicious and had security cameras follow her to the parking lot. I think they were trying to get her license plate number when she started beating the 4 year old girl. My guess is she was mad because the store wouldn't take back the allegedly stolen items so she took it out on the little girl. The CCTV camera was able to get her license plate number and contacted her family, who were very uncooperative. They have her name and have now arrested her sister, who was in the car and did nothing to stop the beating. I can only imagine what that poor kid goes through at home I hope they catch that and treat her the same way she treated her own child. I could not believe the way she not only slapped her but she pulled her hair and then finished up by punching her in the head 3 times with a closed fist.

09-20-2002, 02:26 PM	#6
HeartlandGirl Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix Posts: 7,033 Local Time: 03:16 AM	My sister works for the Department of Human Services, and I can assure you, I've heard way worse than this. It's very sad, and the reasons behind it are complex. I guess the best the average person can do is report any isolated incidents to the authorities. Child abuse of all kinds is a big problem.

09-20-2002, 02:43 PM	#7
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,600 Local Time: 02:16 AM	On my local news last night it showed this. It is really bad. They got the license plate number off the car. The authorities went to the house and the person who owns the car is not the evil doer on the tape. The person would not give any information. The child needs to be removed, the parent needs counseling and to be closely monitored if this child is in her custody again.

09-22-2002, 04:16 PM	#8
Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,615 Local Time: 04:16 AM	Wow...I haven't seen this footage, but...that's just wrong! How in the world can a mother do that to her own child? Sadly she's not alone...I know some people I talk to online who live in abusive households. What has happened to the world? What is up with parents beating up their children? I don't understand it. Angela

09-23-2002, 12:02 AM	#9
bonoman Refugee Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmonton, Canada- Charlestown, Ireland Posts: 1,398 Local Time: 03:16 AM	Hey maddie she's irish. And they say she's a tinker, or wha they are calling her over here, a Irish Travaler, or what we know them as tinkers. She has lived in many a places and even talks with a bit of a accent. They had this one cunt on saying that all Irish Travelers are theives. It gives Irish a bad name becasue we all know that all Irish are'nt like that. Oh and hey how about those Armagh boys!!!....Anyone of who beats Kerry are allright to me. Up the North...!!!

09-23-2002, 07:58 AM	#10
mad1 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2001 Location: Angie Jolie lover from Belfast Norn Ireland. I LOVE YOU ANGIE! Im a Bono fan! Posts: 13,165 Local Time: 10:16 AM	Bonoman...........yes, Irish Travellers do still exist, have done for years and years, we had them up beside Central Train Station in their caravans on wastleland for oh, good couple of years or so, til they were kicked off.........prob do thieve ya know....but sure in South lots do still exist......... as for ur second paragraph, I dont have a fuking clue what ur one about......must be a rant u just went on.....or somethin

09-23-2002, 09:14 AM	#11
pinkfloyd Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SILVER LINE Posts: 901 Local Time: 05:16 AM	i saw it , it happens , i truly belive she's a good mother and a good girl , was not lucky , caught on tape on her bad day , i'm sure she's sorry and will never do this again , Monsters are who showed this everywhere on TV with fury of fucking vampires , and now they want to destroy the family , child's future etc etc ,

09-23-2002, 05:43 PM	#16
oktobergirl Refugee Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: the middle Posts: 1,874 Local Time: 02:16 AM	that girl is NOT a good mother. she needs major help... I hope she gets jail time. The kid will be better off........

09-23-2002, 05:49 PM	#17
Holy John Acrobat Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Montr�al, Qu�bec Posts: 317 Local Time: 10:16 AM	I don't why that story has gone on international TV. The same thing would have happened in France, Germany or South Africa and no one would have cared