anitram said:Loons. Why anyone would stay a member of that Church is beyond me.
It's like a cult. The church that's the most oppressive and backwards is clearly the most pious one. I think that's how many people look at it anyway.
Melon
anitram said:Loons. Why anyone would stay a member of that Church is beyond me.
martha said:
Here's your Constitution for ya. My italics.
Again, who gets to decide what's acceptable and what isn't? Be careful here; many like you have advocated for oppressive change, and then had the tables turned on them. You might want to limit your arguments to the US. You seem to really have it in for Muslim fundamentalists in other countries.
JCR said:
Can you provide me with examples of "oppressive change" you are talking about that occurred when and where? It's usually the religious right that advocate for oppressive change, and that ain't the side I'm on martha.
martha said:
Answer my question: Who gets to decide what's illegal for a religion to say?
You do realize that you'll need to call a Constitutional convention for the changes you want, right?
hmmm, what if they outlaw what you believe instead.
Oh, and try to keep Islam out of your reply. I realize that's really what you're trying to outlaw, but try to stick to my main question: WHO GETS TO DECIDE?
JCR said:
I already answered your question (but you'll notice you don't answer mine) and that's why we're sittin' here now in all of this shit. And no, I see no need to call a constitutional convention to place restrictions on certain religions. THERE ARE IN PLACE laws that limit free speech and I'm merely suggesting that now might be the time to NOT tell preachers what they CAN AND CAN'T SAY, but to limit their right to advocate violence/murder of others in their sermons.
JCR said:
Where are the examples of oppressive change?
hmmmmn...let's see, I believe gays have the right to be married. Yep. looks like they already are trying to outlaw what I believe.
BonoVoxSupastar said:someone's going to come along and say you don't have to right to speak out against any religion. This is why you don't go screwing with the constitution, as soon as you start limiting one person's speech the next time will be you, this is the slippery slope we should be scared of.
melon said:
It's like a cult. The church that's the most oppressive and backwards is clearly the most pious one. I think that's how many people look at it anyway.
Melon