Woman marries dead boyfriend

Dreadsox · 02-10-2004, 09:37 PM

[Q]Woman marries dead boyfriend
February 11, 2004 - 9:02AM

A 35-year-old Frenchwoman became both bride and widow when she married her dead boyfriend, in an exchange of vows that required authorisation from the French president.

The ceremony was performed at Nice City Hall on the French Riviera.

The deceased groom, a former policeman identified as Eric, was not present at the ceremony. He was killed by a drunk driver in September 2002.

Demichel told LCI television she was fully aware that "it could seem shocking to marry someone who is dead", but said that her fiance's absence from her life had not dimmed her feelings for him.

According to French law, a marriage between a living person and a dead person can take place as long as preliminary civic formalities have been completed that show the couple had planned to marry. Before the ceremony can take place, it must be approved by the French president. [/Q]

melon · 02-10-2004, 09:44 PM

I'm glad to see heterosexuals preserving the sanctity of marriage.

Melon

intedomine · 02-10-2004, 09:59 PM

its none of my business whether its an ok thing to do or not.....but its just a stupid thing to do

Dreadsox · 02-10-2004, 10:23 PM

I just think we need a further definition of marriage now. This may become the rage here in the states. Talk about a can of worms....

melon · 02-10-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Dreadsox
I just think we need a further definition of marriage now. This may become the rage here in the states. Talk about a can of worms....

That's because many Americans put their fears before their brains. I doubt that any court or legislature would ever allow one to marry a deceased individual. In fact, that is considered fraud. France is different, merely because they have a law allowing it.

Melon

Dreadsox · 02-10-2004, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by melon

That's because many Americans put their fears before their brains.

I can see it being challenged in court.....we were going to get married. It was their dying wish.

I can see it...not out of fear....I was sarcastic at first....but now I am serious.

BVS · 02-10-2004, 10:40 PM

I'm with Melon, I'm glad France is doing their best to uphold the sanctity of marriage.

On a serious note, how would this work legally? You marry someone without true consent. She can't get divorced without his signature, but I guess you're considered a widow, so you can remarry without divorce. Doesn't the man have a say in any of this?

Dreadsox · 02-10-2004, 10:40 PM

Honeymoon lines:

Honey, relax...you are so stiff.

Dreadsox · 02-10-2004, 11:23 PM

yes, I know she will be happy, but she is marrying a stiff she could do better.

verte76 · 02-11-2004, 12:07 PM

Good grief, this is a new standard of nuttiness. This is one of the damnedest stories I've ever heard. Wait until we start talking about it here!

nbcrusader · 02-11-2004, 12:13 PM

This is a story you would expect in the cheap tabloids. The real story is that France has a law that allows you to marry a dead person.

Liesje · 02-11-2004, 12:14 PM

Well, I'm going to be the minority and say that yes, this is weird, but I can't justify calling this woman a sicko or a nutcase. Two months ago one of my best friend's died of cancer. Everyone will agree that her boyfriend took this the hardest of anyone, including her own parents. He was at the hospital with her every day. He wanted her to live so they could eventually get married. Everyone also agrees that they were the perfect couple. Her death wasn't unexpected in the sense that she'd been in the hospital for months, yet she had been doing better and was starting to eat on her own again. Whenever I see her boyfriend, I can't help but wonder how he feels inside and how he will ever be able to have another relationship like that again. Now I'm not saying he should marry my dead friend now, but still, I'm sure this woman in France didn't marry her dead boyfriend because she had some sick fettish with dead people. I don't think it's fair for us to sit here and make a mockery out of this. Imagine if the person you had loved for so long and were planning on marrying was suddenly taken away forever...even if we don't agree on her marriage, we should all be able to sympathize with that.

deep · 02-11-2004, 12:34 PM

well, at least she will always know where he is

MrsSpringsteen · 02-11-2004, 12:39 PM

I agree w/ LivLuv

BVS · 02-11-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by LivLuvAndBootlegMusic
Well, I'm going to be the minority and say that yes, this is weird, but I can't justify calling this woman a sicko or a nutcase. Two months ago one of my best friend's died of cancer. Everyone will agree that her boyfriend took this the hardest of anyone, including her own parents. He was at the hospital with her every day. He wanted her to live so they could eventually get married. Everyone also agrees that they were the perfect couple. Her death wasn't unexpected in the sense that she'd been in the hospital for months, yet she had been doing better and was starting to eat on her own again. Whenever I see her boyfriend, I can't help but wonder how he feels inside and how he will ever be able to have another relationship like that again. Now I'm not saying he should marry my dead friend now, but still, I'm sure this woman in France didn't marry her dead boyfriend because she had some sick fettish with dead people. I don't think it's fair for us to sit here and make a mockery out of this. Imagine if the person you had loved for so long and were planning on marrying was suddenly taken away forever...even if we don't agree on her marriage, we should all be able to sympathize with that.

This is in no offense to your story, but I've had this same exact thing happen in my family, and you grieve you don't marry this person. Marriage is two people consenting to spend the rest of their lives together, you can't exactly do that with one person already dead. It's a mockery of marriage and a mockery to the departed.

swizzlestick · 02-11-2004, 01:15 PM

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[i]Imagine if the person you had loved for so long and were planning on marrying was suddenly taken away forever...even if we don't agree on her marriage, we should all be able to sympathize with that. [/B]

Yes I sypathize with her, but I don't have to imagine it. Speaking from experience, I lost my girlfriend 5 months ago to an accident related to diabetes. For that month she was in the hospital, all I could think about was her getting better so could ask her to marry me. When she died, I didn't think I could go on. To me, marriage is something I hope to SHARE with a woman I love some day. Marriage is until "Death do us Part", not "Until we die, then we Unite".

There truly isn't anything scared anymore it seems in this world.

joyfulgirl · 02-11-2004, 01:25 PM

You know what? Somebody can marry their vibrator if they want to. I don't give a rat's ass. Laws do not make something sacred or not sacred. It's the presence or absence of LOVE that determine whether or not something is sacred.

Liesje · 02-11-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl
You know what? Somebody can marry their vibrator if they want to. I don't give a rat's ass. Laws do not make something sacred or not sacred. It's the presence or absence of LOVE that determine whether or not something is sacred.

Exactly. In the homosexual thread, I feel like the basic justification is that if two people are both consenting to a relationship and love each other, then they should never be denied the right to marry. As weird as it is, if that was the wish of the boyfriend, then I guess based on any marriage for love and happiness and the consent of both individuals, then it's ok. Besides, if you think about it, we burn bodies, we use them for scientific experimentation, or donate pieces of people per their wishes, so why is marriage so much different?

Liesje · 02-11-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar

This is in no offense to your story, but I've had this same exact thing happen in my family, and you grieve you don't marry this person. Marriage is two people consenting to spend the rest of their lives together, you can't exactly do that with one person already dead. It's a mockery of marriage and a mockery to the departed.

I agree, I don't think that this type of marriage is acceptable and I personally do not agree with it at all, it just irked me that people were making a mockery out of a truly devastating situation.

meegannie · 02-11-2004, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl
You know what? Somebody can marry their vibrator if they want to. I don't give a rat's ass. Laws do not make something sacred or not sacred. It's the presence or absence of LOVE that determine whether or not something is sacred.

02-10-2004, 09:37 PM	#1
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 06:05 PM	Woman marries dead boyfriend [Q]Woman marries dead boyfriend February 11, 2004 - 9:02AM A 35-year-old Frenchwoman became both bride and widow when she married her dead boyfriend, in an exchange of vows that required authorisation from the French president. The ceremony was performed at Nice City Hall on the French Riviera. The deceased groom, a former policeman identified as Eric, was not present at the ceremony. He was killed by a drunk driver in September 2002. Demichel told LCI television she was fully aware that "it could seem shocking to marry someone who is dead", but said that her fiance's absence from her life had not dimmed her feelings for him. According to French law, a marriage between a living person and a dead person can take place as long as preliminary civic formalities have been completed that show the couple had planned to marry. Before the ceremony can take place, it must be approved by the French president. [/Q] __________________

02-10-2004, 09:44 PM	#2
melon ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 11,782 Local Time: 07:05 PM	I'm glad to see heterosexuals preserving the sanctity of marriage. Melon __________________

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02-10-2004, 09:59 PM	#3
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,091 Local Time: 09:05 AM	its none of my business whether its an ok thing to do or not.....but its just a stupid thing to do

02-10-2004, 10:23 PM	#4
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 06:05 PM	I just think we need a further definition of marriage now. This may become the rage here in the states. Talk about a can of worms....

02-10-2004, 10:40 PM	#7
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,230 Local Time: 06:05 PM	I'm with Melon, I'm glad France is doing their best to uphold the sanctity of marriage. On a serious note, how would this work legally? You marry someone without true consent. She can't get divorced without his signature, but I guess you're considered a widow, so you can remarry without divorce. Doesn't the man have a say in any of this?

02-10-2004, 11:23 PM	#9
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 06:05 PM	yes, I know she will be happy, but she is marrying a stiff she could do better.

02-11-2004, 12:07 PM	#10
verte76 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: hoping for changes Posts: 23,331 Local Time: 11:05 PM	Good grief, this is a new standard of nuttiness. This is one of the damnedest stories I've ever heard. Wait until we start talking about it here!

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nbcrusader Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,071 Local Time: 03:05 PM	This is a story you would expect in the cheap tabloids. The real story is that France has a law that allows you to marry a dead person.

02-11-2004, 12:14 PM	#12
Liesje Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the dog house Posts: 19,563 Local Time: 07:05 PM	Well, I'm going to be the minority and say that yes, this is weird, but I can't justify calling this woman a sicko or a nutcase. Two months ago one of my best friend's died of cancer. Everyone will agree that her boyfriend took this the hardest of anyone, including her own parents. He was at the hospital with her every day. He wanted her to live so they could eventually get married. Everyone also agrees that they were the perfect couple. Her death wasn't unexpected in the sense that she'd been in the hospital for months, yet she had been doing better and was starting to eat on her own again. Whenever I see her boyfriend, I can't help but wonder how he feels inside and how he will ever be able to have another relationship like that again. Now I'm not saying he should marry my dead friend now, but still, I'm sure this woman in France didn't marry her dead boyfriend because she had some sick fettish with dead people. I don't think it's fair for us to sit here and make a mockery out of this. Imagine if the person you had loved for so long and were planning on marrying was suddenly taken away forever...even if we don't agree on her marriage, we should all be able to sympathize with that.

02-11-2004, 12:34 PM	#13
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,600 Local Time: 03:05 PM	well, at least she will always know where he is

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MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 27,965 Local Time: 07:05 PM	I agree w/ LivLuv

02-11-2004, 01:25 PM	#17
joyfulgirl Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 16,652 Local Time: 05:05 PM	You know what? Somebody can marry their vibrator if they want to. I don't give a rat's ass. Laws do not make something sacred or not sacred. It's the presence or absence of LOVE that determine whether or not something is sacred.