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Old 12-16-2007, 05:49 PM   #21
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I vote in federal and municipal elections. I feel a sense of citizenship towards the city where i live and the country that I live in, and I don't mind taking 30 minutes out of one day every odd year to vote.

I look at it as my civic responsability.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:04 PM   #22
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I just hate feeling like the people at the top have a good laugh at your cute decision to vote, ahh so naive.
If this were true, the candidates wouldn't be giving every Iowa and New Hampshire voter a handjob right now.
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I'm still waiting for my sexual favors.
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Not from the Republicans.
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Because women didn't get the right to vote (nationally) in this country until 1920-not all that long ago. And many women and others still don't get to elsewhere in the world. So yes, because you can is a great reason.

Personally I was thrilled the first time I got to vote, and many years later I still feel a thrill. I recommend it
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Too true, MrsSpringsteen-I like being able to go out there alongside the men and speak my mind on political issues.

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A right to vote is kind of meaningless without real choice. What power do I have when I have the ability to vote for this piece of crap (hyberbole intended) over that piece of crap? I think they should have a No Vote button or buttons to indicate that the voter did bother to come out and doesn't like any of them.
Seriously, why don't they do that sort of thing more often? It'd all be so much more honest that way and would probably get a lot of attention a la "Okay, why are neither of these people attracting voters? What are we doing wrong here?". I also think third-party candidates should be allowed to have more of a part in the political process-be in the debates and get their time on television and all that, too. It's only fair.

The rest of your post was fantastic, too. Especially the part about holding people accountable. I don't care whether you vote or write letters or protest (respectfully, of course) or whatever, just do SOMETHING. We've seen what happens when we just let the leaders do what they want, and it's kinda scary. I fully intend on voting next year, and would encourage others to do so as well, but I do understand the frustration and the apathy greatly. Just channel all those feelings into some sort of positive action. We need as much help as we can get.

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I disagree on the "none of the above" option. That would soon be twisted into a reason for not holding an election.
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I am opposed to voting just for the sake of voting. I don't believe in any of the candidates, and cannot choose any of them.
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What is the advantage to the voting being state-by-state as opposed to popular? Other than state governments getting more power?
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I am opposed to voting just for the sake of voting.
There are plenty of dictatorships around the world who agree with you wholeheartedly.
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"So, really, why on earth should I vote?"


Because you have the freedom to vote.


Imagine yourself in a country where can can't vote.
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umm.
imagine myself in a country where I have the freedom to vote but my vote doesn't count for shit.
those poor Iraqis under Saddam!

I should just be happy that I have the right to check a name...what happens after I do that is all details, I guess.

(and of course living under Saddam was worse than living here and the two aren't equatable blahdisclaimerblah)
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imagine myself in a country where I have the freedom to vote but my vote doesn't count for shit.
those poor Iraqis under Saddam!

It's true, even though it's cliche. People are still dying for the right to vote around the world. A right Americans are too cynical and lazy to exercise.
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Exactly. I understand in some ways why people have grown cynical and jaded in this country, but it's that exact same cyncism that's preventing any progress from happening. Of course nothing's going to get done if we're just like, "Well, why bother? People will just do what they want anyway."

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:13 PM   #35
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My advice would be to keep up with what is going on -- locally, nationally, and internationally -- and vote when you are both informed and feel drawn to do so (make sure you are and remain registered so you can vote when you want to).

Politics and politicians are often sickening and I certainly understand why many people want nothing at all to do with them (I know I sure as hell don't). So don't deal with them -- do something else. There are many things you can do to make a positive impact in this world that are not political. Find one or more of those things and do that. There is more than one way (voting) to make your voice heard.
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Apathetic Americans are the reason why the United States is becoming a third world country and going to hell in a hand basket.
Reasons why you should vote.
Your aid for college is being cut every year.
The United States is in a recession and headed for an economic depression.
America is losing the good paying jobs to other countries, 3 million and growing. Do you want to spend all that time in college just to get a job at a call center or in the service industry?
You could be drafted if the U.S. invades Iran.
Most of you constitutional rights are gone.
Your generation is going to inherit the largest deficit in the history of the U.S. Deficits turn countries into third world countries. Before 2000 the U.S. was the greatest lender to the world, now the U.S. is the greatest borower in the world. China owns us.
Do you want to live in a third world country? This seems to be the path the U.S. is on.
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Uh ... alright.
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Apathetic Americans are the reason why the United States is becoming a third world country and going to hell in a hand basket.
Reasons why you should vote.
Your aid for college is being cut every year.
The United States is in a recession and headed for an economic depression.
America is losing the good paying jobs to other countries, 3 million and growing. Do you want to spend all that time in college just to get a job at a call center or in the service industry?
You could be drafted if the U.S. invades Iran.
Most of you constitutional rights are gone.
Your generation is going to inherit the largest deficit in the history of the U.S. Deficits turn countries into third world countries. Before 2000 the U.S. was the greatest lender to the world, now the U.S. is the greatest borower in the world. China owns us.
Do you want to live in a third world country? This seems to be the path the U.S. is on.
Are you Jack Bauer's father?
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Old 12-18-2007, 09:39 AM   #39
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Nope I'm just a political science major and I've studied economics and history. I'm active in politics. I'm proud to be a radical liberal and a member of the Democratic Party which Thomas Jefferson founded. I want to be a union organizer when I graduate.
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Old 12-18-2007, 09:48 AM   #40
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Uh ... alright.
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Are you Jack Bauer's father?
Everything in his post is true or very likely.

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Also,

VertigoGal, I appreciate that you feel disenchanted with the current state of US politics, as I and many other Americans do. The first step towards changing that is casting a vote because you have the right to do so. Hell, I live in Canada and I'll be casting an absentee ballot because

a) I have the right to, and
b) Because I don't want the US to continue as it has for the last eight years. I am proud to be a US citizen despite everything and will do what I am enabled to by being a citizen: vote.

You've had the reasons to vote laid out for you, so if you're going to keep whining in an irritating manner, please just let this thread die and stop being so fucking selfish and annoying.

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