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Old 04-16-2008, 12:38 PM   #281
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the horse picture was posted to add to the discussion on civil rights, not to equate male men nor mailmen as ponies.

Only a bigot would think that civil rights has anything to do with men fucking horses.
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the horse picture was posted to add to the discussion on civil rights, not to equate male men nor mailmen as ponies.

David, come on

CONSENT. Consent between 2 adults who are capable of entering into a legally binding agreement.

Why does this scare you so much?
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:25 PM   #283
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only an idiot would compare homosexuality with bestiality.

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I didn't.

i ask if men were allowed to be with beasts and was it within their civil rights to do so, that was the question, which would preclude us Irvine. I'm not saying who the beast is here either.

knee jerk reactions occured with some here due to fear based reasoning in their subconsciousness I suppose.

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Only a bigot would think that civil rights has anything to do with men fucking horses.
Why's that, do animal right's supercede human rights?

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Old 04-16-2008, 05:33 PM   #284
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What I found in the 7 plus years of discussing issues here is that no matter how personal the issue is to someone's heart, the person that loses is the one who resorts to name calling.
Then it would appear that you have lost. Or have you conveniently forgotten your immature little picture name calling post just one page back?

What an absolute hypocrite you are, diamond.
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This entire "bisexual polygamy" argument ignores one factor:

It's incredibly insulting to bisexuals.

That is, they're often looked upon with great suspicion that they are incapable of being monogamous by both the gay and straight communities. To argue that bisexuals can only be served properly through polygamy is truly insulting to those who are bisexual and are very capable of being monogamous to whichever partner they choose to be with. I haven't seen any indication that even a sizable minority of bisexuals are interested in a polygamy.
Thank you!

I was reading all of the comments about bisexuals somehow wanting a polygamous relationship simply because they are bisexual and was trying to figure out what the poster was talking about. Being bisexual myself, I can vouch for the fact that I do not in any way, shape, or form want to be in a relationship with multiple people of both sexes. It just doesn't make sense to me. Yes, I am attracted to both women and men, but one at a time. And, honestly, I go back and forth in who I am finding more attractive at any given time. At the moment, it's men. Last summer, it was women. I just look at it like I have more choices, but certainly not having more people in the relationship. I don't see it as being less true to myself by choosing to be monogamous in a relationship. I'm not being less of myself any more than a heterosexual person, or even a homosexual person would be when choosing to enter into a monogamous relationship.
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What I found in the 7 plus years of discussing issues here is that no matter how personal the issue is to someone's heart, the person that loses is the one who resorts to name calling.
No. You do not get to set the rules here. If you resort to ignoring facts, ignoring reality, and resorting to bigoted stereotypes, then you lose--every time.

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If the truth were known you would realize that *you* know a lot less about me than you may think, and if you want to label me as a bigot and a troll, because I say that I'm against Gay Marriage, but for Gay Matramonial Unions,either Secular or Holy, that would be to your own consternation.
Ah yes...we're supposed to believe that the man who constantly depicts homosexuality as something "unnatural," more or less, is really secretly a good person.

Here's a thought:

How about constructing a coherent sentence that reflects that, rather than leaving us to just "trust" your word? Right now? I have zero reason to believe that you're nothing more than a misinformed, albeit good natured, bigot. And that's unfortunate, really, because there are certainly moments where you can post a thought-provoking thread, such as your contributions to threads regarding NDEs and even some of your comments in the "demon possession" thread. There's moments when I think that we are so faraway, yet so close when it comes to our respective approaches to religion.

Maybe some here will think that I'm being harsh on you. Consider it, instead, as my contribution to you "thinking outside the box."

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You also seem to have a subconscious dysfuntional emotional attachment with Catholism that rears its occassional ugly head for whatever reason, but that is not for me to speculate on nor judge you on.
Again, to take a page from Allan Bloom and conservative political philosophy, it is noted that it is often the Marxist response to take a look at classical philosophy and automatically dismiss it as "patriarchal" or "autocratic." The thing is, these labels are not contested. Indeed, it is noted that all philosophy, prior to the late 18th century or so, will be one or the other, if not both, but that does not mean that certain truths cannot be derived from classical philosophy.

I take the same approach with Catholicism. Very few worldly entities are entirely good or entirely bad. It is up to reason, logic, and philosophy to determine what is of value and what is harmful. I can find numerous qualities in the Catholic Church--and any church or religious sect, for that matter--that has doctrines that are of positive value and negative harm.

Regardless, I do not see how your comment here has any relevance, short of you disliking my nuanced approach to religion.
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Why's that, do animal right's supercede human rights?
If you are to argue that man and animal are capable of marriage, then it must be argued simultaneously that both are of equal rights, value, and culpability.

Since an animal cannot consent, by nature, such a proposition is always the equivalent of rape.

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I've stimulated enough expansive thought for the time being, carry on I shall return in due course on my own recognizance.
It isn't fun anymore when you have to confront reality, I guess? Goodbye.
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I think gay marriage should be limited to women only.

I also think a women can have a husband and wife at the same time. That way, a man and two women can...honeymoon...three...

OK...just having guy's dream.

Please don't hate me. Embrace.
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Why is it when I leave threads the post averages take a tumble like a bad day on Wall Street?

That said on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the maddest, how mad are some of you at me?


Is it safe to have a coherent dialouge with you or are some of you still unfocused with your anger?

Should I take cover for a while longer until we all can come to the table and reason together?

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Should I take cover for a while longer until we all can come to the table and reason together?

You don't reason. You throw out offensive and homophobic statements and then run for cover when you piss people off.

You hide behind your church and your "humor" to deflect any criticism of your bigoted positions.
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So the predetermined time is already over?
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The time is not right my love.

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Instead of your glib comments and leave taking that really wasn't perhaps you should try to make amends to those you most definitely appear to have offended here, and think about what they said and what others said. And think about the "rationale" behind your arguments.
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Instead of your glib comments and leave taking that really wasn't perhaps you should try to make amends to those you most definitely appear to have offended here, and think about what they said and what others said. And think about the "rationale" behind your arguments.
I will thru sound reasoning at the right time when cooler heads prevail.

And the others should follow your heed likewise as well.

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I will thru sound reasoning at the right time when cooler heads prevail.

HA!

You haven't yet. Why start now.
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I've been the most even keeled, level headed unemotional person thru out this thread.



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NOW I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT:

I'm leaving FYM for a predetermined time on my own volition.
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I asked you guys to carry on in my absence and I since I've been away all I hear are crickets chirpping.

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