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Old 05-01-2008, 06:52 AM   #21
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^Interesting. Some people will never admit to such thinking but it is out there. They ought to honestly examine it.

Maybe a hysterectomy would fix her.
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Tom Hayden has a history and baggage.
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^Interesting. Some people will never admit to such thinking but it is out there. They ought to honestly examine it.

Maybe a hysterectomy would fix her.
Exactly. Remove the offending organ, and she'll be just fine!
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Exactly. Remove the offending organ, and she'll be just fine!
and with numerous talking heads, the overriding consensus is that Bill is the offending organ.
Isn't that hysterical..
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Take that, Hayden.
if nothing else at least this articile did make sense

I'm not a Clinton fan or anything
hell, I don't care one way or the other
but the Hayden article made no sense whatsoever
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if nothing else at least this articile did make sense

I'm not a Clinton fan or anything
hell, I don't care one way or the other
but the Hayden article made no sense whatsoever
Neither am I, nor am I a militant feminist. I'm not even American, so I have little invested in the outcome besides being an interested citizen of the world and a neighbour to the north of the US. Yet oddly, I find myself wanting to defend some of the outrageous claims made about her (yes, they are outrageous, akin to tabloid journalism). I think it's naive not to think that there is at least some degree of sexism going on in the vilification of Hillary.
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if nothing else at least this articile did make sense

I'm not a Clinton fan or anything
hell, I don't care one way or the other
but the Hayden article made no sense whatsoever
there is a lot of hysterical ranting aginst Hillary these days

I expected it from the Rush Limbaughs and his like

I saw the same hysterical rantings against Bill Clinton in the 90s by that same group

it seems the anti-Hillary people really got nothing
so they are just regurgitating the wacko Right-wing rants
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Really, I'm less inclined to blame Hillary here, and more inclined to blame the political parties for creating this convoluted and long drawn out primary process.

Wouldn't we all have been happier, had Iowa and New Hampshire coronated our candidates like usual?
I've been meaning to reply to this for a few days now. I think you've hit the nail on the head, blaming the process for much of the problems and division that's going on right now.

You seem to be very familiar with the ways of Canada - you're moving here soon, right? - so you probably know about our process of electing leaders of political parties, and it is so much easier, faster, and more efficient than yours.

In my view, what's happening right now in the US is that contrary to most election cycles, you have two very strong candidates running for the Democratic party. Normally, this should be thought of as a positive thing - yay Democrats! - but all it's causing now is bickering and division.

Because of the strength of the candidates and the relative closeness of their delegate counts, the process has to go on and on before it resolves. In the meantime, the American public is becoming more and more invested in seeing their particular candidate win, forgetting that essentially, they're both on the same side! Your media certainly hasn't been helping, sensationalizing every aspect of the candidates and the process, as the US media is wont to do. This seems to be setting up an air of fervency, whereby it's taking on a tone of a sporting event, with the fans of each "side" being overly invested in the outcome. Rather than being pleased that there are two very strong, capable candidates running, this is leading to the inevitable mudslinging and whatnot.
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there is a lot of hysterical ranting aginst Hillary these days

I expected it from the Rush Limbaughs and his like

I saw the same hysterical rantings against Bill Clinton in the 90s by that same group

it seems the anti-Hillary people really got nothing
so they are just regurgitating the wacko Right-wing rants
I find the people who criticize Hillary for stuff that has nothing to do with her stands on the issues (I think people can make perfectly rational arguments against her there) to be far more "hysterical" than Hillary has ever been. They call her cold and robotic one day and hysterical the next! Talk about irrational.
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