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Old 07-06-2007, 02:04 PM   #41
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He did, however, give us the hilarious movie Dick. Now that was a fun one.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:31 AM   #42
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So you admit change does occur through "them".



Slavery was abolished, civil rights have changed, women's rights have changed, homosexual rights are slowly changing... Yeah you're right, status quo keeps going.
Most of those things were many years ago, and only came about when the cultural tide turned against them more than anything. The main thing that will NEVER change is the financial status quo of rich vs. poor, because even though there are rich blacks, women and gays, NOBODY cares about the poor person who can't donate, can't pay anybody off. The oil companies, banks, credit card companies, and big business and corporations will always get their way because they have money and the workers don't. Look, even the gains made in the 20th century by unions are now being made useless by outsourcing, downsizing, cuts in pay and benefits and other such things that are literally destroying the working class and middle class. If this continues, in a few decades we will be a country of the very rich and the very poor, and then revolution might come. And no, I do not believe the dems give a flying damn about the working poor, but they will tell you they will to get your vote. You need look no further than the wussout on the war in Iraq to know what we're dealing with, and I don't want them or trust them. We need someone NEW.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:42 AM   #43
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Every President I think since Nixon has been deserving of impeachment b/c we hold such high standards.
Where do you get this from?

Your schools have failed you, maybe college with undo some of this misinformation.
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We need someone NEW.
Is some magical King or Queen going to take over all of a sudden?

If you don't vote, and you don't take part, we'll never get anyone NEW.
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Where do you get this from?
Maybe his/her own mind? Thinking rationally? All politicans are crooked, or they wouldn't be where they are. You are naive to trust them. Of course most don't get caught, because they are rich and powerful but that doesn't mean they are innocent.
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Is some magical King or Queen going to take over all of a sudden?

If you don't vote, and you don't take part, we'll never get anyone NEW.
I won't vote for any of the ones I see out there today, because it's not going to help. We aren't getting anyone new from this crop of rotten apples. I'll vote if we ever get a viable third party candidate. NO rep or dem. they've all proven themselves unworthy.
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Maybe his/her own mind? Thinking rationally? All politicans are crooked, or they wouldn't be where they are. You are naive to trust them. Of course most don't get caught, because they are rich and powerful but that doesn't mean they are innocent.
And you are naively cynical to think all are impeachable. You keep using the word 'trust' who says I trust anyone?

How many of us are truly innocent?
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I won't vote for any of the ones I see out there today, because it's not going to help. We aren't getting anyone new from this crop of rotten apples. I'll vote if we ever get a viable third party candidate. NO rep or dem. they've all proven themselves unworthy.

But since you hate every politician, and everybody is a crooked liar by definition, you couldn't even recognize the third party candidate who stands for what you are demanding.
In the end, s/he is a politician, which you hate.
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Ann, how about this? I would vote for her. This the kind of change our country needs, ordinary people making a difference when they don't see their leaders doing enough.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070709/...sheehan_pelosi
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I'd take her over any of those plastic programmed talking heads out there now. She's real, she's lived among real people and dealt with real problems, and that's what we need.
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