U2Bama
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I would KEEP Babe Ruth.
U2Bama said:I would KEEP Babe Ruth.
deep said:Stalin got a pass?
MonaVox said:We couldn't name one of Picasso's works
deep said:Stalin got a pass?
oliveu2cm said:
Mona- I hope you post more of your assignments (in this vein) on the board so we can participate. I miss college!
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:
What - this was a question in college???
I thought it was aimed at 16 year old schoolboys and -girls.
But I see your point of view. Since they maybe neither know who Einstein or Picasso were, so it would be useless to ask this question.
To pose a question like this at the university I am studying at would be regarded as unscientific - to the least. Students would laugh their asses off. Sorry to be that harsh, but it is really strange to see... excuse me.
KhanadaRhodes said:ironically, i think some people are reading too much into this. as it's been said, perhaps the question was written poorly. it does not seem like it's like this: you've got a gun in your hand, these eight men are in front of you, shoot three and watch them die!!! it's to pick which three would you say never should have been born. to pick three men (*ahem*) who weren't even on this list is not only jumping on some bandwagon to eliminate today's dictators.
originally posted by brettig
You know what? I don't really see the point of this discussion. In all honesty its the type of school discussion that gives education a bad name, ivory tower, good qualifications for hob knobbing in the welfare queue and all that. Why the hell are we being forced to pigeonhole three of eight people who made an undoubted contribution to humanity and say 'oh they didn't really do anything significant'. Pisses me off quite frankly.
deep said:The question was poorly worded and did not make much sense.
Gandhi, MLK Jr and Abraham Lincoln were all killed.
I thought the exercised was devised to make the students evaluate the contributions these people made. That is why I answered it with the criteria: Who would you select not to have been born?
Lilly said:mona!
don't be sorry or regretful about posting it. it sparked a debate as anything posted here in fym should.
good post!!
U2Bama said:
At last, the finger pointing begins (bandwagon).
To sum it up, for once, I agree with whenhiphopdrovethebigcars on the fact that this question illustrates some of the stupid ideas spewed forth by today's collegiate elitists.
brettig also summed it up perfectly:
The question, or project or show & tell or whatever we shall call it, is the equivalent of a prank that radio shock jocks would pull. Instead of the traditional (and admittedly cliche) "What famous people, living or dead, would you invite to a dinner party?" project, some narrow-minded, pencil-necked, bow-tied college professors with horn-rimmed glasses decided "Oh, let's trun that around!!! Who would they KILL??? Let's SHOCK 'em!!!! Like a SHOCK JOCK!!! Then we will prepare them for a better future and the world will be full of our ideals!!!" So they concoct this mess in the Ivory Tower that brettig mentioned and send the kids parents a big fat tuition bill for it.
I firmly believe that professors/educators who pose this question have their idea of the "established" correct answer: Lincoln, Ruth and Einstein. Lincoln, because they have "historically revised" much of his life and policy; Ruth, because he is a "dumb jock" who lived by the competitive spirit; and Einstein due to his contributions to weapons of mass destruction. I would venture to guess that Gandhi, MLK and Shakespeare would be the absolute "WRONG!" answer by the faculty and likely get a student banned from writing for the campus newspaper.
Tell me this: how is a person's passion for sports any less significant than another person's passion for art or literature? Yes, I said I would keep Babe Ruth; everyone of you who listed 3 persons to kill listed Babe Ruth. Talk about a "bandwagon" for sure. To the sports fan, Babe Ruth's contribution to history may be more than that of Shakespeare or even Gandhi.
Do you want to know what my response would be today if I were in college and faced with this "situation study"?
"Well, Professor Sassafrass, I am going to challenge authority on this one and I will not pick from the list of 8 people you have given me. You ask what 3 people would I knock off?" Simple - YOU, the Department Head who is over your department, and the President of the college since he/she hired you. Long live college athletics. What is my next feel-good small group project?"
~U2Alabama
KhanadaRhodes said:you can call what i said finger pointing if you wish, but it's true. to name a bunch of evil dictators is a cop out. of course i'm sure we all wish bin laden dead. but that's not even the point of this discussion question. it's to pick good people (as in they contributed positively to society. mlk helped pave the way for civil rights, whereas hitler massacred millions.) and think, "what if they didn't exist?" or more specifically, "what if they didn't stand up and decide to do what lead them to the path to become the great person they became?"