Who won GOP Debate on CNN tonight Jan 30 2008? - Page 3

phillyfan26 · 02-02-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Infinitum98
Well the reason he has won every single debate is because he speaks the truth about Iraq. You can't really win a debate if you use our soldiers to gain political popularity nor if you unconditionally back such a horrible war. So if someone else is anti-war in the debate, then it could be that they can also win. But since you think it is ridiculous for anyone to assume that Ron Paul won the last debate, who do you think won?

I don't think it's ridiculous for anyone to assume that Ron Paul won the last debate: I think it's ridiculous to believe that Paul is going to win every state when the primary comes up and to think he won every single debate.

Infinity · 02-02-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

I don't think it's ridiculous for anyone to assume that Ron Paul won the last debate: I think it's ridiculous to believe that Paul is going to win every state when the primary comes up and to think he won every single debate.

About winning every single debate, I said that it was becasue he speaks the truth about our foreign policy.

About winning every state in the primaries, that is just me keeping the faith, but I can agree with you on why you think that is a ridiculous assumption. But it is definitely not ridiculous to say that he won every debate.

phillyfan26 · 02-02-2008, 05:23 PM

If you summarize every debate to one single issue, sure, Ron Paul won every debate.

But that's not how debates work.

Infinity · 02-02-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26
If you summarize every debate to one single issue, sure, Ron Paul won every debate.

But that's not how debates work.

Not only one issue. But war is one of the main, if not the main issue. But I don't see how someone who can back this war whether they truly believe it is right, or whether they are backing it for political gain (which most probably are), can be called a debate winner.

Axver · 02-02-2008, 05:31 PM

Winning a debate isn't about your positions though. It's about how you present them. It doesn't matter how right you are; if you're not persuading people, you're not winning.

Bluer White · 02-02-2008, 05:48 PM

The problem I have with McCain is that he only speaks in specifics about foreign policy, and nothing else.

In most every other area, he uses buzzwords like 'pork barrel spending' and 'Reagan Revolution' and otherwise else very little substance. It's like he's implying "Hey, I've been in Washington forever, so I *must* know....and if by chance I don't I have friends who do."

**Diemen** · 02-02-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by Axver
Winning a debate isn't about your positions though. It's about how you present them. It doesn't matter how right you are; if you're not persuading people, you're not winning.

Bingo.

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02-02-2008, 05:23 PM	#43
phillyfan26 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30,343 Local Time: 04:37 AM	If you summarize every debate to one single issue, sure, Ron Paul won every debate. But that's not how debates work.

02-02-2008, 05:48 PM	#46
Bluer White Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 2,341 Local Time: 05:37 AM	The problem I have with McCain is that he only speaks in specifics about foreign policy, and nothing else. In most every other area, he uses buzzwords like 'pork barrel spending' and 'Reagan Revolution' and otherwise else very little substance. It's like he's implying "Hey, I've been in Washington forever, so I must know....and if by chance I don't I have friends who do."