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I personally see Hillary as a far greater gamble.
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and that is based on the clintons' track record
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That's based on the division I see caused by her which would lead to disaster in the general election.
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so judging "track records" the clintons record is far superior
and obama really does not have much of one, yet. as for " division I see caused by her" I accept your perception but I don't believe it and also understand that within your college environment it seems like an unstoppable ground swell for obama a tidal wave that will propel all the way through November well. based on watching many, many presidential elections very closely and analizing them i fear your very common held belief is far from what will happen and please bear in mind I very much do not want huckabee, rudy or mitt appointing useless sacks, like alito to the supreme court. I expect more vacancies on the court, and the liberals will be the next two to go. |
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Well I certainly hope you're right that if Hillary were to get the nom that she'd beat out the republicans, but I just don't feel like she could win.
When she turns off democrats as hardcore as myself, and fires up the Republicans, I get worried. |
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'analizing' elections, now that sounds painful
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I am NOT denying the reality of "baggage," the sometimes-testy dullness and lack of charm to Hillary's persona, the (realistically rather small, compared to the GOP candidates) differences between her, Obama and the other Dems on various issues, and the distastefulness of furthering family-dynasty political trends, much less all the many appealing qualities Obama looks to have. I am no "fan" of Hillary myself. But I do question whether some of these Obama supporters who appear to hate Hillary to the point of being ready to give up altogether if they can't have Barack, and have him Right Now!, might not have uncritically internalized some of the aforementioned propaganda screed without stopping to ask themselves how worthy that received judgment is, who really benefits when they don't ask themselves those questions, and what exactly she's done that is so singularly hateful and vile as to warrant that level of frothing-at-the-mouth hysteria. |
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Are you hoping so?
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In 2000, after the GOP power brokers fixed it for W to get the nomination by gutting McCain. They realized they had a problem because W was such a light weight. So Cheney was added to the ticket (by himself, not W, btw) and the buzz word was "gravitas" "gravitas" "gravitas" I had never heard that word in relationship to a VP before. Al Gore certainly had stature when he was chosen as Clinton running mate. GHW Bush certainly had stature when he was chosen as Reagan's VP. But both Clinton and Reagan did not need a VP with "gravitas" because they were not considered lightweights. When W ran in 2000 they almost ran Cheney more than W. With W who is president? Two people? I think it is more like 1 and 1/2. The half being W. If Hillary gets the nomination. There are several people she could pick for VP. No one would be screaming she needs a VP with "gravitas". Can you say the say for Obama? or would he suffer from the same perception as W did in 2000? Who would end up being the twofer candidate? Hillary or Obama? |
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you really seem to be all worked up about nothing
again, with Reagan, one person was President with Bush 1, one person was President (who even remembers Quayle) with Clinton, one person was President Gore did not upstage Clinton Hillary is perceived as a competent, effective Senator, the fact that she is married to a popular, well-respected exPresident has not sidetracked or interfered with her work in the Senate |
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