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Old 01-23-2002, 04:57 PM   #21
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In America, hate speech is readily protected, but not sex.
ah yes, the old you have freedom of speech as long as it isn't about your penis debate

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Old 01-23-2002, 05:21 PM   #22
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Suppression often leads to rebellion and obsession with the exact things we're forbidden to do.
Exactly.

Reminds me, I'm still waiting for that talk from Mom...

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Exactly.

Reminds me, I'm still waiting for that talk from Mom...

Well, here you go:

Remember that the boy just zips up his pants and goes home. The girl gets stuck with a loaf in the oven.
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Old 01-23-2002, 07:12 PM   #24
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Melon, I love your posts.

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Old 01-24-2002, 03:22 AM   #25
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Religious beliefs. As a Christian, I believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong. I believe that anything that promotes sex outside of marriage is wrong. I also believe that sex is something that is for the privacy of the bedroom, between a man and his wife. Parents need to be open with their kids about sex, but the movie theatre is not where kids need to learn about it.
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I respect everyone else's opinion in this matter, but the above comment has one major flaw. It is assuming that everyone is Christian. Since you are living in a country that has freedom of religion, media should not be based on what one religious group deems to be moral, or immoral.

Sex doesn't just exist between married people, and whether or not we think that is right, it doesn't change that fact. Sex occurs in many different situations, between man and woman, between man and man, between man and prostitute, between married woman and single man, between 4 people at a time, etc. I feel that there is nothing wrong with showing these different types of relationships, as long as the movie is rated accordingly.
What I do feel is wrong, is when people expect the media to do their parenting for them. If you don't want your kids to see Sex and Violence in a movie, then don't let them!!!

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Your post is the one with flaws:
1)Where did I assume that the entire country is Christian?
2)Who said anything about making these kinds of movies illgal? If you think I said that, show me where I said it. I said I think it's wrong to show sex in movies. That was my answer to the question that was asked.
3)I don't expect the media to parent my child. Believe me, I don't want this secular society to parent my child. But you know what? It's absolutely impossible to watch your child 24 hours a day. Media should eb MUCH MUCH more responsible.


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Religious beliefs. As a Christian, I believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong. I believe that anything that promotes sex outside of marriage is wrong. I also believe that sex is something that is for the privacy of the bedroom, between a man and his wife. Parents need to be open with their kids about sex, but the movie theatre is not where kids need to learn about it.

I respect everyone else's opinion in this matter, but the above comment has one major flaw. It is assuming that everyone is Christian. Since you are living in a country that has freedom of religion, media should not be based on what one religious group deems to be moral, or immoral.

Sex doesn't just exist between married people, and whether or not we think that is right, it doesn't change that fact. Sex occurs in many different situations, between man and woman, between man and man, between man and prostitute, between married woman and single man, between 4 people at a time, etc. I feel that there is nothing wrong with showing these different types of relationships, as long as the movie is rated accordingly.
What I do feel is wrong, is when people expect the media to do their parenting for them. If you don't want your kids to see Sex and Violence in a movie, then don't let them!!!
1)Who said anything about making these kinds of movies illgal? If you think I said that, show me where I said it. I said I think it's wrong to show sex in movies. That was my answer to the question that was asked.
2)I don't expect the media to parent my child. Believe me, I don't want this secular society to parent my child. But you know what? It's absolutely impossible to watch your child 24 hours a day. Media should eb MUCH MUCH more responsible.
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Old 01-24-2002, 10:52 AM   #27
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In the Netherlands, we have these icons to go with the ratings:

Violence
Fear
Alcohol or drug abuse
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Old 01-24-2002, 12:39 PM   #28
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yes Klod, how do we come up with this stuff?

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Old 01-24-2002, 12:49 PM   #29
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I do like the sex icon.


Actually Melon's idea sounds pretty logical.
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I like sex in movies, unless people are getting chopped up after they're done.

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Old 01-24-2002, 01:33 PM   #31
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I do like the sex icon.


Actually Melon's idea sounds pretty logical.
Yes, I liked that one too, BV. lol


Also while I'm here I'll agree with melon's idea also.

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Old 01-24-2002, 02:19 PM   #32
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I whole-heartedly agree with melon on this one.
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Old 01-24-2002, 02:46 PM   #33
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yes Klod, how do we come up with this stuff?
Oh shush, Salome, we all know that you drew them.

Btw, does anyone else see a lady with a frilly collar holding up her hands instead of the happy feet icon, or have I been looking at too many of those illusion pictures people keep emailing me?
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Old 01-24-2002, 11:04 PM   #34
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Actually, I'm very happy with the system we have in Britain. Instead of R and NC-17 we have 12, 15 and 18 and anything else is simply banned, though that hasn't happened in ages.

I think sex and violence in the media is far more an issue in America than it is in Europe, though I might be wrong.

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Old 01-25-2002, 04:31 AM   #35
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I dunno, Ant, those films that were banned... things like The Exorcist, A Clockwork Orange and Natural Born Killers... I've seen them all as an adult (okay, so I probably saw The Exorcist as a teenager, but that's beside the point), and I would have been pissed off if anyone told me I couldn't. I agree that children should be protected, but if adults want to see that kind of thing, I don't think it's right to say they aren't allowed.

I don't understand how some countries can have freedom of speech yet want to control what people read and watch.
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I suggest , U go and see french film " DOBERMAN" , you'll love It !

HERE'S COMES JOHNNY YYEAR , YAER , YEAR!!
you know, i've been searching all over for this movie. i canNOT find it here. damn pittsburgh.
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I dunno, Ant, those films that were banned... things like The Exorcist, A Clockwork Orange and Natural Born Killers... I've seen them all as an adult (okay, so I probably saw The Exorcist as a teenager, but that's beside the point), and I would have been pissed off if anyone told me I couldn't. I agree that children should be protected, but if adults want to see that kind of thing, I don't think it's right to say they aren't allowed.
I don't understand how some countries can have freedom of speech yet want to control what people read and watch.
Yes, Klodomir, but I didn't condone it at all, all I pointed out what was that it hasn't happened in ages. They don't do it anymore, atleast not in Britain.

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Actually Klod, I agree with ya. For about the 50 millionth time.

And that icon for sex is awesome. Shame it discriminates for movies with 3-somes.

There's no need to censor or ban movies with sex/violence for minors. Thats what parents are for.
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