Westboro Baptist aim to preach at Tech funerals

UnforgettableLemon · 04-18-2007, 01:01 AM

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

So the most notorious 'church' in the United States plans to 'preach' their hate at the funerals of the fallen students from Virginia Tech. I know this could probably go into the main thread, but I feel it warrants attention. I am unable to do so because of work obligations, but there is talk on facebook and elsewhere of forming a peaceful barrier between the Westboro Baptist Church and the attendees. I''m not sure if it's logistically possible, but when they made a similar attempt at Matthew Sheppard's funeral, supporters gathered to seperate their hate from the friends who had already suffered enough.

This makes me sick.

indra · 04-18-2007, 01:37 AM

They want attention. As hard as it is to hear the shit they spew, they are just nasty, inbred, attention seekers who have no phone line to god and no power other than what the attention of others gives them.

So let them spew. Everyone knows they are nothing more than crackpots.

UnforgettableLemon · 04-18-2007, 02:00 AM

It's not their spewing that bothers me. They can say whatever crap they want. I just hate the thought of them poisoning that day for all the families involved. I'm very torn by that, because I truly do believe that the only solution in the long run is to ignore them.

Dreadsox · 04-18-2007, 02:29 AM

I am pretty disgusted with Obama today as well. Listening to the audio of his speech today where he is talking about the violence that occured at VT and weapons laws into the violence perpetrated by Imus on black women.

Now I have publicly said that Imus should not have said what he said....

But I am physically about to lose my midnight snack listening to this man's bullshit....linking the two events.

Is this any different from what these rel;igious nuts are doing?

Does this man crave power that badly, that he cannot give it a rest for a day? He has to link the two events?

32 DEAD.....and they are going to be used by every group under the sun to try and achieve their goals be they religious, political.....

Can we bury them first?

MrsSpringsteen · 04-18-2007, 07:30 AM

Just to the best you can to ignore them. I believe there was a legal ruling about their appearances at military funerals-I don't remember what it was and don't think it could apply here.

The students at VT have shown themselves to be a multiple million times the human beings that these low lives are, so they are not even worth their time of day. A peaceful barrier is a good idea, just don't even acknowledge them in any other way. They have no idea who God is and what He stands for.

Liesje · 04-18-2007, 07:35 AM

Sad that the "most notorious church" is the one spouting so much hate and ridicule. And people wonder why Christians all look bad...

Dreadsox · 04-18-2007, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Liesje
Sad that the "most notorious church" is the one spouting so much hate and ridicule. And people wonder why Christians all look bad...

I was recently asked by a student to be his confirmation sponsor. He asked me why Chrsitians have such a bad reputation in our meeting the other day.....

This sums it up.

U2democrat · 04-18-2007, 08:20 AM

I was appreciative of Gov. Kaine's angry reaction yesterday when he was asked about gun control policies...I forgot his exact words but it was something along the lines of 'for those who are already turning this into a political debate I have nothing but disdain for you.' Thank you. Let the emotional and physical wounds heal first.

As for the church protest...I'm disgusted by them.

LarryMullen's POPAngel · 04-18-2007, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2democrat
I was appreciative of Gov. Kaine's angry reaction yesterday when he was asked about gun control policies...I forgot his exact words but it was something along the lines of 'for those who are already turning this into a political debate I have nothing but disdain for you.' Thank you. Let the emotional and physical wounds heal first.

As for the church protest...I'm disgusted by them.

I wish I hadn't had a phone call when I saw Gov. Kaine on tv last night. I really wanted to see him speak after hearing about it here yesterday.

The peaceful barrier seems to be the best option. Form it, and ignore those monsters. That's all I have to say about this. I refuse to waste another keystroke on them.

BonoIsMyMuse · 04-18-2007, 09:01 AM

A few years ago, a filmmaker made a documentary about a gay young man from my area who killed himself. The Westboro Baptist Church turned up to protest at the film's premiere on a college campus. Passersby ignored them and went about their business, and they got so frustrated, they left.

Franklin Graham (son of Billy Graham) is having a big tent revivial sort of gathering on my university's campus in June. Many in the community are in an uproar about it. If I'm not working, I'm going out of town that weekend, and if I am, I'm going to stay in my apartment as much as I can, because the whole town will be overrun by hardcore Christians and protestors

MadelynIris · 04-18-2007, 10:11 AM

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Many in the community are in an uproar about it.

Curious why they are in an uproar?

BonoIsMyMuse · 04-18-2007, 10:24 AM

Here's an excerpt from a recent article from our local paper:

Quote:

The complaints relate to Graham's comments about Islam, Hinduism, homosexuals and Hurricane Katrina's assault on New Orleans -- statements the letter said "constitute bigotry, harassment and intimidation based on religion, race, creed and sexual orientation."

The letter also claims the lack of face-to-face time with Graham is not in keeping with handbook policy that encourages dialogue and respect for diverse viewpoints. Because festival organizers chose a college campus for their religious event, the letter said Graham cannot stand alone and apart from the university's day-to-day commitment to dialogue among diverse ideologies.

"I have no problem with controversial speakers on a college campus, but there should be dialogue. I don't see that in this case," said Janice McDonald, assistant dean of Harpur College of Arts and Sciences. "We have many students here who are of other faiths."

Full article available here: http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pb...=2007704150342

MrsSpringsteen · 04-18-2007, 02:51 PM

I don't think Westboro is even a real church. I could start a church of Johnny Depp just like they started theirs

And mine would have more credibility and be more representative of Christianity than theirs is.

I loved when that woman on Fox (Julie Banderas) told off Phelps' daughter.

What would you do if you had a son in the military?” an outraged Banderas asked. “Would you damn him to hell as well? Because you’re gonna join him there if you had a son!”

“I have eight sons and I have three daughters,” responded Phelps-Roper, “and none of them would dare, dare fight for a nation who has made God their No. 1 enemy.”

Banderas engaged in a heated, rapid-fire, name-calling exchange with Phelps-Roper, which included: Banderas: “The Bible says ‘the fear of the Lord is hatred of evil,’ [from the Book of] Proverbs. ‘Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.’ Perverted speech like yours: ‘God hates fags.’ You are preaching absolute B.-., and you know the final letter.”
Phelps-Roper: “If you don’t tell them that this nation is full of idolatry, full of adulteries …

Banderas: “Full of insane people like yourself, ma’am.”

Phelps-Roper: “You’re proud. You’re proud of your sins. You can’t do enough sinning. You think ‘gay’ pride, bimbo. You have sinned away your day of grace.”

Banderas: “OK, you are an abomination.”

Phelps-Roper: “America is doomed. America is doomed. … Before your eyes, missy, you’re gonna see the destruction of America.”

Banderas: “If America is doomed, then why don’t you get out? Why are you in this country? Why are you an American? Are you an American?”

Phelps-Roper: “I am exactly where my God put me to tell you plainly, that you are going to hell, and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

Banderas: “Why don’t you take your church to another country, then, ma’am? Thank you so much. You should not be proud to be an American, and thank you. Good-bye.”

Irvine511 · 04-18-2007, 02:55 PM

see thet WBC's new music video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My8KxRj_Pwo

deep · 04-18-2007, 03:23 PM

The guy might have a point.
The good people of Sodom and Gomorrah did not want to hear about their sins, either.

That is, if you believe that story.

Vincent Vega · 04-18-2007, 05:50 PM

Didn't he say that was the last time, and he wouldn't do it again?
Wasn't Christianity about forgiving?

Forgiven, not forgotten.

Justin24 · 04-18-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vincent Vega
Didn't he say that was the last time, and he wouldn't do it again?
Wasn't Christianity about forgiving?

Forgiven, not forgotten.

Well forgivness don't mean jack these days. I would bring up The Reverand but that will not get us anywhere.

BVS · 04-18-2007, 05:59 PM

Vincent Vega · 04-18-2007, 06:01 PM

I'm not familiar with the phrase "jack these days."

If it's something along the lines "forget about it", well, that's anwered.
But it doesn't matter, this Westboro people have far more serious issues.

Justin24 · 04-18-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar

I see you don't agree.

04-18-2007, 01:01 AM	#1
UnforgettableLemon Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 7,286 Local Time: 03:41 PM	Westboro Baptist aim to preach at Tech funerals http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ So the most notorious 'church' in the United States plans to 'preach' their hate at the funerals of the fallen students from Virginia Tech. I know this could probably go into the main thread, but I feel it warrants attention. I am unable to do so because of work obligations, but there is talk on facebook and elsewhere of forming a peaceful barrier between the Westboro Baptist Church and the attendees. I''m not sure if it's logistically possible, but when they made a similar attempt at Matthew Sheppard's funeral, supporters gathered to seperate their hate from the friends who had already suffered enough. This makes me sick. __________________

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indra ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,689 Local Time: 03:41 PM	They want attention. As hard as it is to hear the shit they spew, they are just nasty, inbred, attention seekers who have no phone line to god and no power other than what the attention of others gives them. So let them spew. Everyone knows they are nothing more than crackpots. __________________

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04-18-2007, 02:00 AM	#3
UnforgettableLemon Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Lansdale, PA Posts: 7,286 Local Time: 03:41 PM	It's not their spewing that bothers me. They can say whatever crap they want. I just hate the thought of them poisoning that day for all the families involved. I'm very torn by that, because I truly do believe that the only solution in the long run is to ignore them.

04-18-2007, 02:29 AM	#4
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 02:41 PM	I am pretty disgusted with Obama today as well. Listening to the audio of his speech today where he is talking about the violence that occured at VT and weapons laws into the violence perpetrated by Imus on black women. Now I have publicly said that Imus should not have said what he said.... But I am physically about to lose my midnight snack listening to this man's bullshit....linking the two events. Is this any different from what these rel;igious nuts are doing? Does this man crave power that badly, that he cannot give it a rest for a day? He has to link the two events? 32 DEAD.....and they are going to be used by every group under the sun to try and achieve their goals be they religious, political..... Can we bury them first?

04-18-2007, 07:30 AM	#5
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 26,375 Local Time: 03:41 PM	Just to the best you can to ignore them. I believe there was a legal ruling about their appearances at military funerals-I don't remember what it was and don't think it could apply here. The students at VT have shown themselves to be a multiple million times the human beings that these low lives are, so they are not even worth their time of day. A peaceful barrier is a good idea, just don't even acknowledge them in any other way. They have no idea who God is and what He stands for.

04-18-2007, 07:35 AM	#6
Liesje Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the dog house Posts: 19,563 Local Time: 03:41 PM	Sad that the "most notorious church" is the one spouting so much hate and ridicule. And people wonder why Christians all look bad...

04-18-2007, 08:20 AM	#8
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 07:41 PM	I was appreciative of Gov. Kaine's angry reaction yesterday when he was asked about gun control policies...I forgot his exact words but it was something along the lines of 'for those who are already turning this into a political debate I have nothing but disdain for you.' Thank you. Let the emotional and physical wounds heal first. As for the church protest...I'm disgusted by them.

04-18-2007, 09:01 AM	#10
BonoIsMyMuse Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 5,241 Local Time: 03:41 PM	A few years ago, a filmmaker made a documentary about a gay young man from my area who killed himself. The Westboro Baptist Church turned up to protest at the film's premiere on a college campus. Passersby ignored them and went about their business, and they got so frustrated, they left. Franklin Graham (son of Billy Graham) is having a big tent revivial sort of gathering on my university's campus in June. Many in the community are in an uproar about it. If I'm not working, I'm going out of town that weekend, and if I am, I'm going to stay in my apartment as much as I can, because the whole town will be overrun by hardcore Christians and protestors

04-18-2007, 02:51 PM	#13
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 26,375 Local Time: 03:41 PM	I don't think Westboro is even a real church. I could start a church of Johnny Depp just like they started theirs And mine would have more credibility and be more representative of Christianity than theirs is. I loved when that woman on Fox (Julie Banderas) told off Phelps' daughter. What would you do if you had a son in the military?” an outraged Banderas asked. “Would you damn him to hell as well? Because you’re gonna join him there if you had a son!” “I have eight sons and I have three daughters,” responded Phelps-Roper, “and none of them would dare, dare fight for a nation who has made God their No. 1 enemy.” Banderas engaged in a heated, rapid-fire, name-calling exchange with Phelps-Roper, which included: Banderas: “The Bible says ‘the fear of the Lord is hatred of evil,’ [from the Book of] Proverbs. ‘Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.’ Perverted speech like yours: ‘God hates fags.’ You are preaching absolute B.-., and you know the final letter.” Phelps-Roper: “If you don’t tell them that this nation is full of idolatry, full of adulteries … Banderas: “Full of insane people like yourself, ma’am.” Phelps-Roper: “You’re proud. You’re proud of your sins. You can’t do enough sinning. You think ‘gay’ pride, bimbo. You have sinned away your day of grace.” Banderas: “OK, you are an abomination.” Phelps-Roper: “America is doomed. America is doomed. … Before your eyes, missy, you’re gonna see the destruction of America.” Banderas: “If America is doomed, then why don’t you get out? Why are you in this country? Why are you an American? Are you an American?” Phelps-Roper: “I am exactly where my God put me to tell you plainly, that you are going to hell, and there’s nothing you can do about it.” Banderas: “Why don’t you take your church to another country, then, ma’am? Thank you so much. You should not be proud to be an American, and thank you. Good-bye.”

04-18-2007, 03:23 PM	#15
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,597 Local Time: 11:41 AM	The guy might have a point. The good people of Sodom and Gomorrah did not want to hear about their sins, either. That is, if you believe that story.

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Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,645 Local Time: 09:41 PM	Didn't he say that was the last time, and he wouldn't do it again? Wasn't Christianity about forgiving? Forgiven, not forgotten.

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04-18-2007, 06:01 PM	#19
Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,645 Local Time: 09:41 PM	I'm not familiar with the phrase "jack these days." If it's something along the lines "forget about it", well, that's anwered. But it doesn't matter, this Westboro people have far more serious issues.