Viking DNA - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-29-2008, 09:13 PM   #1
love, blood, life
A_Wanderer's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 12,518
Local Time: 11:43 AM
Viking DNA

Although “Viking” literally means “pirate,” recent research has indicated that the Vikings were also traders to the fishmongers of Europe. Stereotypically, these Norsemen are usually pictured wearing a horned helmet but in a new study published in the journal PLoS ONE this week, Jørgen Dissing and colleagues from the University of Copenhagen, investigated what went under the helmet; the scientists were able to extract authentic DNA from ancient Viking skeletons, avoiding many of the problems of contamination faced by past researchers. Analysis of DNA from the remains of ancient humans provides valuable insights into such important questions as the origin of genetic diseases, migration patterns of our forefathers and tribal and family patterns.

Unfortunately, severe problems connected with the retrieval and analysis of DNA from ancient organisms (like the scarcity of intact molecules) are further aggravated in the case of ancient humans. This is because of the great risk of contamination with abundant DNA from modern humans. Humans, then, are involved at all steps, from excavation to laboratory analyses. This means that many previous results have subsequently been disputed as attributed to the presence of contaminant DNA, and some researchers even claim that it is impossible to obtain reliable results with ancient human DNA.

Using freshly sampled material from ten Viking skeletons from around AD 1,000, from a non-Christian burial site on the Danish island of Funen, Dissing and colleagues showed that it is indeed possible to retrieve authentic DNA from ancient humans.

Wearing protective suits, the researchers removed the teeth from the jaw at the moment the skeletons were unearthed when they had been untouched for 1,000 years. The subsequent laboratory procedures were also carefully controlled in order to avoid contamination.

Analysis of the Viking DNA showed no evidence of contamination with extraneous DNA, and typing of the endogenous DNA gave reproducible results and showed that these individuals were just as diverse as contemporary humans. A reliable retrieval of authentic DNA opens the way for a valuable use of prehistoric human remains to illuminate the genetic history of past and extant populations.
Researchers retrieve authentic Viking DNA from 1,000-year-old skeletons | Eureka! Science News

Thats pretty cool stuff, my own mongrel bog Irish to continental DNA probably has a few of these markers in it.

A_Wanderer is offline  
Old 05-29-2008, 10:33 PM   #2
love, blood, life
melon's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Ásgarðr
Posts: 11,786
Local Time: 09:43 PM
All those of Western European ethnicity, with all the fictitious nationalities created thereof, are going to have primarily Celtic and Germanic/Norse DNA. Even those Vikings from a millennium ago are probably not immune either, as the waves of Germanic invasions generally involved little more than a change in ruling class, coupled with complete assimilation with the native population.

Quite interesting nonetheless.

melon is offline  
Old 05-30-2008, 04:34 PM   #3
Blue Crack Overdose
Get me off the internetz!
Carek1230's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: wishing I was somewhere else....
Posts: 125,647
Local Time: 06:43 PM
Doesn't most of our DNA come from Celtic or Norse background? I thought so.
Carek1230 is offline  
Old 05-30-2008, 06:27 PM   #4
love, blood, life
financeguy's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 02:43 AM
It's a strange thought, but, last night, walking home, I trod on the graves of long dead Vikings. I live in an area of Dublin which to this day has streets that were originally built and named by the Vikings - it's an important part of Irish, and of course Danish heritage.

financeguy is offline  
Old 05-31-2008, 12:18 PM   #5
love, blood, life
AtomicBono's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 10,486
Local Time: 08:43 PM
Nice...I'm a Viking myself. Was named after a Viking queen (Astrid, sister of Canute/Knute the Great), and according to my dad's geneology we're actually descendants
AtomicBono is offline  
Old 06-01-2008, 10:36 AM   #6
love, blood, life
Kieran McConville's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kony Island Baby
Posts: 10,244
Local Time: 11:43 AM
we're all descendents.

For every king there must be an extended family of dozens of brothers, sisters, cousins, also-rans... I'm convinced that we're all related, in every sense.
Kieran McConville is offline  
Old 06-01-2008, 10:47 AM   #7
love, blood, life
A_Wanderer's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 12,518
Local Time: 11:43 AM
Once you hit around 800 AD common ancestry for people of any European decent is more or less guaranteed.

2 parents, 4 grand parents, 8 great grandparents... it all overlaps eventually.
A_Wanderer is offline  
Old 06-01-2008, 11:09 AM   #8
Rock n' Roll Doggie
DrTeeth's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Q continuum
Posts: 4,770
Local Time: 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Kieran McConville View Post
we're all descendents.

For every king there must be an extended family of dozens of brothers, sisters, cousins, also-rans... I'm convinced that we're all related, in every sense.
Not really that surprising if you consider that we're even related to other species.
DrTeeth is offline  
Old 06-01-2008, 01:48 PM   #9
Blue Crack Supplier
~BrightestStar~'s Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gettin' hot in a photobooth....livin it up in Ikeaville
Posts: 35,735
Local Time: 09:43 PM
we are?!?!

I thought we were special...

~BrightestStar~ is offline  

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright ©