Bunbury said:
BonoVoxSupastar said:Interesting, we'll see what investigations will show us.
Wouldn't armed individuals seek shelter from an f-16 overhead? Or is it possible that they couldn't see or hear it? Any experts?
STING2 said:The United States military DOES NOT TARGET CIVILIANS
Vorsprung said:
Don't be so damn naive.
It' is a war remember???? Information, disinformation, lack of information, hiding information. Propaganda Propaganda Propaganda!!!!
You can't win a war without it. Both sides use and the ones on the side as wel...
Now I'm sure they do not intend to kill the entire people of Iraq. They probably don't even intend to target civilians....but it happens...mistakes happen. You've got quite a stressful situation going on there. It isn't exactly Disneyland.
Now maybe they don't target civilians, could be, but how can you be sure of that???? You can't, because the military lies....and so they should do.
paxetaurora said:The US military has certainly targeted civilians in the past. Seems to me that thousands of them knowingly died when we dropped two big fucking atomic bombs on Japan.
paxetaurora said:Saying that they do not target civilians for sport is not the same as saying they do not target civilians at all.
I'm perfectly aware that terrorists can pose as civilians, that mistakes can be made, etc., but I also believe, as Vorsprung does, that it would be terribly naive to think that the military has never or does not now target civilians.
And like I said, we know of at least one great big incident in which civilians were, in fact, targeted.
paxetaurora said:The US military has certainly targeted civilians in the past. Seems to me that thousands of them knowingly died when we dropped two big fucking atomic bombs on Japan.
nbcrusader said:
That has been the subject of other threads, but I doubt we can characterize the use of atomic bombs in WWII as "targeting civilians".
We today, of course, expect a substantially higher effort to eliminate or avoid civilian casualties.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
So what were we targeting?
Look I agree that for the most part the US doesn't "target" civilians. But individuals have been known to target civilians.
This video(I agree it's out of context so I'm not taking a side) is disturbing though. All he says is I have numerous individuals, do you want me to take them out? .
nbcrusader said:
That has been the subject of other threads, but I doubt we can characterize the use of atomic bombs in WWII as "targeting civilians".
diamond said:
If they were known terrorists its's normal for one pilot to say to the other 'do u want me take thake them out'? and 'oh dude' after a target is hit.
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STING2 said:
The dropping of the Atomic Bomb was the right course of action, and far more people were killed in coventional bombing of Japanese cities than were killed by the Atomic Bomb.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Yes if they were known terrorists. I hope they were. But like I said earlier the most disturbing part of the video is that he only says "I have numerous individuals" not I have the target. Hopefully the investigation will show us what really happened.