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Old 06-09-2002, 10:14 AM   #1
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Video of Danny Pearl's Death

I dont know whether to be disgusted, horrified or what - but the Boston Phoenix website is linking to the actual video of Danny's murder.

They also have an article explaining why they are showing this, etc. I have read that, and I can understand why they have done it - but I still have not chosen to watch it, and the only way I'll ever see it is by accident. Everytime I even see this poor man's face or hear about him, it truly breaks my heart.

I'm curious if anyone else has seen this video - or if they will watch it now that it's available to the public - thoughts?
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Old 06-09-2002, 11:23 AM   #2
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Raging.
I watched it yesterday.
It made me numb w/anguish.

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I don't think it's right for them to have this accessible. I wonder if I would watch it though. I am already disgusted enough with perpetrators of these acts.

GOD bless him.
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Isn't it bad enough to watch those planes crash into those building and see the Pentagon on fire...and know people are dying there...: Why????


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It's also easily available for download through various other sources.


SPOILER WARNING!!!

DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS VIDEO ON YOUR OWN!

DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS VIDEO!

LAST WARNING!!


I watched it and can understand why many think it is fake. There's a scene where one guy is apparently "hacking away" at his neck. But it just doesn't look real. The next scene shows this many holding up Pearl's head - but again, it looks fake.

Regardless, it was greusome video to watch, fake or not. I hope and pray it is fake and Pearl does return home some day. But sadly, it does appear Pearl is dead.

If the video is real, that type of barbarity goes far beyond any wrong-doings the allied forces have done in the current war. Bombing an area where civilians might be killed is tragic. But videotaping a man being purposely decapitized is beyond my comprehension.
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If the video is real, that type of barbarity goes far beyond any wrong-doings the allied forces have done in the current war. Bombing an area where civilians might be killed is tragic. But videotaping a man being purposely decapitized is beyond my comprehension.
Good point Dr.
The whole point of the allied forces is to extinguish these barbaric "people". They only way to stop them is to eliminate them, and I encourage their extinction.

Unfortunately civilians get caught up in the mess, they can't hardly be warned to get out of the way though. It sucks, and is reason enough to live a good life and pray for peace.
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I work for the Wall St. Journal's web site and while most of the people I work with and myself never knew Danny, we deeply felt anguish and disgust over his kidnapping and murder. For that reason alone, I don't want to see the video.

As someone who spent several years in journalism school debating the ethics of running gorey photos or video like this I can honestly say I have no idea why the Boston Phoenix would run it on their site. The editor was quoted as saying he immediately decided to run the video with no reservations. Sorry but a decision like this -- regardless of the outcome -- is not something that should be arrived at so quickly and easily.

The basic question the Boston Phoenix should have asked is: Is this video necessary to tell the story? And for me, the basic answer is no. We know he's dead, we know his wife just gave birth to their son. Do we need to put this family through more hell? To put Danny's collegues through more pain? No.

This was simply a way for the Boston Phoenix to get publicity and say what you want about journalists -- most of them would at least have the decency to actually think long and hard about a decision to run something like that.
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It's also easily available for download through various other sources.


SPOILER WARNING!!!

DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS VIDEO ON YOUR OWN!

DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS VIDEO!

LAST WARNING!!


I watched it and can understand why many think it is fake. There's a scene where one guy is apparently "hacking away" at his neck. But it just doesn't look real. The next scene shows this many holding up Pearl's head - but again, it looks fake.

Regardless, it was greusome video to watch, fake or not. I hope and pray it is fake and Pearl does return home some day. But sadly, it does appear Pearl is dead.

If the video is real, that type of barbarity goes far beyond any wrong-doings the allied forces have done in the current war. Bombing an area where civilians might be killed is tragic. But videotaping a man being purposely decapitized is beyond my comprehension.
I'm going to say that the video (which I haven't seen and don't plan on watching) is fake (which doesn't mean that Daniel Pearl is still alive, though).

What kind of idiot would leave evidence like that lying around?
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I'm going to say that the video (which I haven't seen and don't plan on watching) is fake (which doesn't mean that Daniel Pearl is still alive, though).

What kind of idiot would leave evidence like that lying around?
I believe they delivered or left it purposely for proof of his death to support their "cause" or whatever. Idiots does not even begin to describe these types of dispicable bastards.
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I believe they delivered or left it purposely for proof of his death to support their "cause" or whatever. Idiots does not even begin to describe these types of dispicable bastards.
Uh, my point was that unless those murderers were really clever, investigators could use the tape to track them down (check for fingerprints/hair/etc on the tape or on the package, etc).
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Uh, my point was that unless those murderers were really clever, investigators could use the tape to track them down (check for fingerprints/hair/etc on the tape or on the package, etc).
I dont think they care about leaving evidence behind or having their identities known, they are proud of their sins
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and I'm pretty sure they've found Danny's body based on descriptions given to them by suspects.

These guys don't care if they get caught. Their goal is to be convicted and possible put to death for their cause-- whatever sick twisted cause that happens to be.
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The idea of watching another man getting murdered is just sickening and serves absolutely no purpose. So the murderers were evil monsters but that doesn't mean that making the tape available to the general public is justified, we could deduct that from the accounts. Enough with the voyeurism! Nobody wants to be videotaped in their last dying moments for the world to see, especially under such horrific circumstances. They should leave the man some diginity, have respect for his family. Yuck, this is like reality tv brought to a whole new disgusting level...
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What a sad, sad horrible thing. I wonder if having this video available crosses the line on explotation of a violent crime. There is no need to ever have this available for veiwing- our imaginations are strong enough to understand what he must have suffered, and we do not need to see this violence to offer condolensces to his family and friends, or to build a stronger national alliance or whatever the point was (if there was one!) in making this accessible to people. They should remove the video and offer an apology to his family for putting it up in the first place.
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Old 06-10-2002, 12:27 PM   #16
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Upon futhur contemplation..I wished I WOULD NOT HAVE watched it now.
Its what Lady L and Olive said.
Furthurly, if I ever bumped into Danny's friends or family how do you think they would look at me, or those that felt it was necessary to view Danny's slaughter?

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Old 06-10-2002, 12:37 PM   #17
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I really don't understand why anyone would choose to view something like this - I mean you know the outcome so it's not because you want to find out how it ends.

What is with this morbid curiousity people seem to have. I just don't understand.
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i second what carrie said.
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I really don't understand why anyone would choose to view something like this - I mean you know the outcome so it's not because you want to find out how it ends.

What is with this morbid curiousity people seem to have. I just don't understand.
While I feel no need to justify my reasons for viewing the video, I felt compelled to share so that perhaps you can at least partially understand.

I watched the video "scientifically." That is, I was not convinced of the claims of Pearl's death nor the claims of this video. After viewing the footage, I am still unconvinced. If anything, this video gives me more hope that Pearl may still be alive (although, logically and realistically I realize that this is sadly unlikely).

Also, the tape gave me a better insight into understanding the nature of these people. While the tragedy of Sept. 11th was horrendous, this tape - even if it is false - shows how truly desperate these men are. These are not men who care for life in the simplest form. They are just as willing to sacrifice themselves as they are others. Which makes me wonder - what is their ultimate goal? A world with no living creatures?

As for Diamond's comment about encountering Pearl's family (however unlikely that may be), I would not be ashamed of my actions as I felt they were justified.
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Also, the tape gave me a better insight into understanding the nature of these people. While the tragedy of Sept. 11th was horrendous, this tape - even if it is false - shows how truly desperate these men are. These are not men who care for life in the simplest form. They are just as willing to sacrifice themselves as they are others. Which makes me wonder - what is their ultimate goal? A world with no living creatures?

Doctorwho.. I too viewed this video, There's no reason to even begin to justify.. But you hit the nail directly.. Americans have an extremely short memory.. Which is why I think the videos of the planes crashing into the buildings should be almost Monthly Staples on Prime time Networks.. So we don't forget.. To make all those civil liberty crazys realize the how wrong they are when they Stomp and Pout about Profiling.. and when they are practically disallowing us to Interrogate the terrorists held in Camp X ray.. I hope they try this new bad guy.. Pidallla.. oh. excuse me.. 'Muhajir' by a military tribunal.. but we'll see.. but I think Doctorwho hit this perfectly!

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