US Presidential Election XII

[Popmartijn]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Haha. The weight of the Clinton Foundation scandal will come crashing down on her head.

But what exactly is the scandal? For now, all this hoo-haa about the Clinton Foundation is again much ado about nothing. Like all the other things the Republicans have been throwing against the Clintons for the past 20+ years.
Clinton Foundation Still Not Criminal, Still Not Great

The emails do not show that Clinton Foundation donors received any policy favors from Hillary Clinton or other elected officials.

Trump may say mean things but he is not the poster child of DC corruption that Hillary is.

No, instead he is the poster child of all the racism, misogyny, bigotism, anti-intellectualism, white-collar crime and oppression that is going on in the US.
And oh, corruption on a global scale (is it known yet for how much he's been bought by the Russians?).

[Oregoropa]

Originally Posted by martha

You still haven't outlined which of Trump's "stances" you agree with.

Go back 2 weeks ago. I wrote a long post comparing the economic policies of both candidates.


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[martha]

I remember that, now. But you only agree with his economics? Anything else?


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[BVS]

Originally Posted by martha

Anything else?


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He's been a die-hard Trumpet since 'wall' came out of Trump's mouth. He's said this election is a reformation on immigration. Everything else is just icing.

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Haha. The weight of the Clinton Foundation scandal will come crashing down on her head. Brutal timing as we enter the homestretch. Trump may say mean things but he is not the poster child of DC corruption that Hillary is. Y'all might want to prepare for your worst nightmare November 8th

I'll give this, you guys and gals do a great job of closing ranks when the narrative is under attack. Maybe, deep down you do feel Clinton may be headed up shit creek, but you're just not going to say it here.

I'm going to go over to the John Cusack thread for awhile and dream it all up again.


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Absolutely would say it if she were in trouble, but she's not (yet). There are fair criticisms to be made about her as a candidate, but we don't talk about them.

The focus is on the outrageous claims / conspiracy theories that underneath it all might lie a valid point, but it gets so blown up by the GOP & BernieBros that a conversation cannot be had.

Clinton has one of the best resumes of anyone running for POTUS in years, probably since Bush Senior. But she's also one of the least liked, and unfavorable candidates ever. Some of that is warranted, the rest is complete bullshit/slander.

The GOP had a great chance to take back the WH in this election, but they blew it with putting up the ONE guy who's even more disliked than Clinton (Cruz would be up there too....).

History is not on Trump's side here. I don't believe any candidate has made this large of a comeback at this stage. And we're not even to the debates, where I truly believe it'll be stacked against Clinton. She has the expectations on her shoulders, Trump will be a success if he doesn't lose his temper. All this talk of how the "Libralll Medddddeea" has a bias, but we all know that if Clinton fumbles her words at all, shows any sign of frustration, the narrative will be TRUMP WINS DEBATE!!!

But keep believing Clinton is going to be buried.

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by BVS

He's been a die-hard Trumpet since 'wall' came out of Trump's mouth. He's said this election is a reformation on immigration. Everything else is just icing.

And now Trump is floating the idea of softening on his past immigration talk.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by BEAL

And now Trump is floating the idea of softening on his past immigration talk.

Yeah, I saw that and it's honestly one of the dumbest moves he's ever made, and he's made a lot of them. THAT'S how he got so much die-hard support, if he wanted to soften in order to try and win some moderates, the time was months ago. Not now. You gain nothing and lose a lot at this stage.

It's just another move that makes me think he never really wanted the job.

[bobsaget77]

Originally Posted by corianderstem

Holy shit, I finally get to use these gifs!

Catheter bags under her pants:





Thank you sincerely, FYM, for giving me an excuse to post them.

Outstanding.



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[womanfish]

The sky is beginning to fall for Clinton.

New CNN poll yesterday has her up 16 in Virgina
NBC has her up 8 nationally
and New Reuters/Ipsos from today has her up 12 nationally...

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by womanfish

The sky is beginning to fall for Clinton.

New CNN poll yesterday has her up 16 in Virgina
NBC has her up 8 nationally
and New Reuters/Ipsos from today has her up 12 nationally...

But there's one LA-Times poll that has them neck and neck

[BEAL]

Virginia looks like it could be a lock for Clinton. Huge get there.

And if Trump loses North Carolina, the election is over.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by BEAL

Virginia looks like it could be a lock for Clinton. Huge get there.

And if Trump loses North Carolina, the election is over.

October surprise:

a. Benghazi
b. Email
c. Clinton Foundation
d. Catheter Bag
e. Wikileaks
f. Bono's Astronaut
g. Lesbian Farmers
h. All of the Above

[Oregoropa]

Bvs - borrowing that pic


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[womanfish]

Originally Posted by BEAL

But there's one LA-Times poll that has them neck and neck

That is one strange poll. 538 just did a piece about it this morning. Somehow it polls about 6 points in Trumps favor at all times...

[womanfish]

Originally Posted by BEAL

Virginia looks like it could be a lock for Clinton. Huge get there.

And if Trump loses North Carolina, the election is over.

Yeah, i think the biggest surprises right now are:

Colorado up double digits
Virginia up double digits
SC, GA, and AZ tied...

pretty crazy

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by deep

You're better than this

Cute.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Haha. The weight of the Clinton Foundation scandal will come crashing down on her head. Brutal timing as we enter the homestretch.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. Any objective reading of the most recent 'revelations' about the Clinton Foundation show that some people requested meetings with the Secretary and didn't get them, or requested meetings that were already scheduled through official channels. My, what a scandal!

Trump may say mean things but he is not the poster child of DC corruption that Hillary is.

The only reason Trump is not a poster child for DC corruption is because he hasn't spent any time in DC. He's certainly been a poster child for decades of corruption in his business dealings. Discriminatory housing practices, Trump U, reneging on financial commitments to contractors and small businessmen...

Maybe, deep down you do feel Clinton may be headed up shit creek, but you're just not going to say it here.

This seems like one of those Trumpian tendencies to project one's own weaknesses onto your opponents.

[Oregoropa]

I think this thread has been whittled down to Hillary's Praetorian guard


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[Diemen]

Wishing for a scandal to bring someone down doesn't make some emails about setting up meetings a scandal.

[PhilsFan]

Oh good, here comes to "reasonable Democrat" media ripping apart that legitimate AP story about the Clinton Foundation. Fuck Matt Yglesias.