US Presidential Election XII - Page 28

DaveC · 08-22-2016, 07:41 PM

this thread got way better once the election was over.

BigMacPhisto · 08-22-2016, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diemen

Yes, I am (and I read this article, too). BMP's comment isn't a serious response to it. And given his relationship with many of the posters in here, it seems designed to get a rise out of people.

I was just posting an opinion after reading the article and that's how I actually feel about her hawkishness. If you're going to write it off as trolling, then that's because she's a sacred cow to some people in this thread. Most here would call Bush's foreign policy doctrine under his Presidency to be absolutely insane, so I'm not sure what's different here given her rush to send in troops at any opportunity.

Nobody has any problem with blunt opinions about Trump in this thread, so it's strange that Clinton is off limits.

Caleb8844 · 08-22-2016, 08:01 PM

It pretty much sounds like you're saying that, if enough people don't like your opinion, you are aware of this, and you share your opinion anyway, you are now trolling.

That's pretty pathetic, quite frankly. It would be trivially easy to find examples of both Trump and Sanders being called much worse than bonkers.

That said, Diemen does a good job of staying mostly objective 90/100 times.

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Caleb8844 · 08-22-2016, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveC

i honestly don't think anybody really gives a flying fuck about bernie or his supporters anymore. they're all irrelevant now. he just happens to the village idiot's favorite topic.

Calling a poster the village idiot is not trolling.

I think BMP has some of the worst political opinions in this thread (I don't not enjoy your posts, though, BMP - no ill will). That said, the vitriol the board has decided he warrants is pretty indefensible.

Things like this are why the board has about three conservatives and maybe two Sanders supporters.

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LuckyNumber7 · 08-22-2016, 09:07 PM

Tbh I think this board uses the term "vitriol" way too much.

BVS · 08-22-2016, 09:12 PM

I second that...

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**Diemen** · 08-22-2016, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Nobody has any problem with blunt opinions about Trump in this thread, so it's strange that Clinton is off limits.

No, Clinton is not off limits. Pfan posted that article and, last I checked, no one has called for its deletion. However, that article was full of substantive points to be made, and I'm pretty sure that's what Peef was hoping to initiate. And instead we get "boy is she crazy, amirite?" from the resident Hillary basher.

I'm just saying, if you want to have a discussion about Hillary's issues, then by all means, go ahead. There are several posters here who would welcome it. But "she's even more bonkers than I ever could have imagined" is not a good jumping off point.

**Diemen** · 08-22-2016, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

Calling a poster the village idiot is not trolling.

So that one got by me, but upon some more searching you might notice I've talked to Dave about these kind of posts before.

DaveC · 08-23-2016, 12:01 AM

if being called "the village idiot" is too much "vitriol" for someone to take, the internet is probably the last place they should be.

BigMacPhisto · 08-23-2016, 12:41 AM

So, pay-to-play 100% did happen and Clinton obviously lied about releasing all of her work related e-mails (and unsurprisingly, it's the batch related to Clinton Fund donors that only gets released now). Bono tried getting help for the ISS link-up on the last tour....

Emails reveal how foundation donors got access to Clinton and her close aides at State Dept.

**Diemen** · 08-23-2016, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveC

if being called "the village idiot" is too much "vitriol" for someone to take, the internet is probably the last place they should be.

Yeah, but we'd like it if this place was better than the rest of the internet, which is why it's not cool to call another poster the village idiot here.

LuckyNumber7 · 08-23-2016, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveC

if being called "the village idiot" is too much "vitriol" for someone to take, the internet is probably the last place they should be.

Obfuscate

BVS · 08-23-2016, 11:56 AM

Donald Trump Jacked Up His Campaign’s Trump Tower Rent Once Somebody Else Was Paying It

He's truly in it for America!

DaveC · 08-23-2016, 12:15 PM

sorry but when we have someone come in here and start literally and repeatedly calling other posters "pro-rape" as a debating tactic, my concern for hurting their feelings with mean words like "idiot" kinda goes out the window.

**Diemen** · 08-23-2016, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveC

sorry but when we have someone come in here and start literally and repeatedly calling other posters "pro-rape" as a debating tactic, my concern for hurting their feelings with mean words like "idiot" kinda goes out the window.

So next time you lose your concern, don't post the result.

Oregoropa · 08-23-2016, 02:04 PM

Haha. Shepard Smith just tagged Bono in the Clinton foundation emails requesting a favor of talking to an Astronaut during the 360 tour.

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DaveC · 08-23-2016, 02:15 PM

cool then. bmp, feel free to carry on constantly slandering the rest of us, you won't be called the mildest name in the book for it so not to worry

**Diemen** · 08-23-2016, 02:28 PM

Dude, drop it already.

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 08-23-2016, 09:20 PM

I am saddened that the Clinton Foundation had the balls to bribe contractors for the rights to contracts.

Wait, what's that? That's the other candidate? They focused on making the world a better place? Oh.

But still... Rarrrr pay to play.

This is so fucking stupid. I have to do things for donors all the time. They're not bribing my organization to get special as treatment. They're supporting the philanthropic activities we partake in. And it's just common fucking sense that if the Tisch family wants to get their kid into a sold out program, you get the fucking kid into a sold out program. Because duh.

And if someone important to my wife's work needed something, I'd do my damnedest to make it happen.

There is nothing in any of these emails that shows that any of these meetings or requests was for anything nefarious. It's all rather mundane crap. Stuff that anyone in any job would do for somebody who's been a friend or a donor or ally in any other position they may have had at some point.

Shit, there's nothing even remotely close to Cheney/Haliburton level corruption. But that's conveniently ignored by Republicans. Because Hillary is evil.

martha · 08-23-2016, 09:43 PM

And she's a bad wife!

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08-22-2016, 07:41 PM	#541
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 23,010 Local Time: 09:32 PM	this thread got way better once the election was over. __________________

08-22-2016, 08:01 PM	#543
Caleb8844 War Child Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 662 Local Time: 07:32 PM	US Presidential Election XII It pretty much sounds like you're saying that, if enough people don't like your opinion, you are aware of this, and you share your opinion anyway, you are now trolling. That's pretty pathetic, quite frankly. It would be trivially easy to find examples of both Trump and Sanders being called much worse than bonkers. That said, Diemen does a good job of staying mostly objective 90/100 times. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

08-23-2016, 09:43 PM	#560
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,561 Local Time: 06:32 PM	And she's a bad wife! Sent from my iPad using U2 Interference __________________

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08-22-2016, 09:07 PM	#545
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,701 Local Time: 09:32 PM	Tbh I think this board uses the term "vitriol" way too much.

08-22-2016, 09:12 PM	#546
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 08:32 PM	I second that... Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

08-23-2016, 12:01 AM	#549
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 23,010 Local Time: 09:32 PM	if being called "the village idiot" is too much "vitriol" for someone to take, the internet is probably the last place they should be.

08-23-2016, 12:41 AM	#550
BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,351 Local Time: 08:32 PM	So, pay-to-play 100% did happen and Clinton obviously lied about releasing all of her work related e-mails (and unsurprisingly, it's the batch related to Clinton Fund donors that only gets released now). Bono tried getting help for the ISS link-up on the last tour.... Emails reveal how foundation donors got access to Clinton and her close aides at State Dept.

08-23-2016, 11:56 AM	#553
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 08:32 PM	Donald Trump Jacked Up His Campaign’s Trump Tower Rent Once Somebody Else Was Paying It He's truly in it for America!

08-23-2016, 12:15 PM	#554
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 23,010 Local Time: 09:32 PM	sorry but when we have someone come in here and start literally and repeatedly calling other posters "pro-rape" as a debating tactic, my concern for hurting their feelings with mean words like "idiot" kinda goes out the window.

08-23-2016, 02:04 PM	#556
Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 08:32 PM	Haha. Shepard Smith just tagged Bono in the Clinton foundation emails requesting a favor of talking to an Astronaut during the 360 tour. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

08-23-2016, 02:15 PM	#557
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 23,010 Local Time: 09:32 PM	cool then. bmp, feel free to carry on constantly slandering the rest of us, you won't be called the mildest name in the book for it so not to worry

08-23-2016, 02:28 PM	#558
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,690 Local Time: 08:32 PM	Dude, drop it already.

08-23-2016, 09:20 PM	#559
Headache in a Suitcase Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 74,705 Local Time: 09:32 PM	I am saddened that the Clinton Foundation had the balls to bribe contractors for the rights to contracts. Wait, what's that? That's the other candidate? They focused on making the world a better place? Oh. But still... Rarrrr pay to play. This is so fucking stupid. I have to do things for donors all the time. They're not bribing my organization to get special as treatment. They're supporting the philanthropic activities we partake in. And it's just common fucking sense that if the Tisch family wants to get their kid into a sold out program, you get the fucking kid into a sold out program. Because duh. And if someone important to my wife's work needed something, I'd do my damnedest to make it happen. There is nothing in any of these emails that shows that any of these meetings or requests was for anything nefarious. It's all rather mundane crap. Stuff that anyone in any job would do for somebody who's been a friend or a donor or ally in any other position they may have had at some point. Shit, there's nothing even remotely close to Cheney/Haliburton level corruption. But that's conveniently ignored by Republicans. Because Hillary is evil.