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Old 05-12-2021, 09:05 AM   #361
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https://twitter.com/numbersmuncher/s...372574212?s=21

GQP going all in on the crazy

Not that Liz was a great politician, she voted down Trump lines over 90% of the time.

Policy aside tho, have to give her credit for standing up against Trump and her party in this moment. Policy can be debated, manipulated, but the truth cannot.

This is a big warning shot to democrats and democracy, authoritarian rule is knocking on the door. What can you do to stop it ?
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Old 05-12-2021, 09:37 AM   #362
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GQP going all in on the crazy

Not that Liz was a great politician, she voted down Trump lines over 90% of the time.

Policy aside tho, have to give her credit for standing up against Trump and her party in this moment. Policy can be debated, manipulated, but the truth cannot.

This is a big warning shot to democrats and democracy, authoritarian rule is knocking on the door. What can you do to stop it ?
Yeah, I'm very hesitant to label Liz as a hero mostly because I wouldn't be surprised if she's doing this for a potential Presidential run. But...I am thankful that at least someone is being loud enough to keep saying "Hey, the rest of my party is fucked up". If anything I can't see how this doesn't hurt the GOP as a whole.
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She is 100% angling or a post-Trump future.

She's well connected and obviously comes from a capable family. Dick Cheney was an asshole but he was a competent asshole, which is a massive difference from the dingbats with (R) next to their name now.

I just think that the genie is too far out of the bottle for the GOP at this point. The Liz Cheneys and Mitt Romneys of the world can't control the Trump base and can't get them to fall in line either.
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Where things are going there won't even be a chance to debate policy or the merits of government work because the entire focus is going to be keeping one party from destroying it all.

The Cheney's, Bushes, and any other of the GOP who've spoken out against Trump's lies are not people that we'd normally agree with anything (based on their voting history, and what they've done to the country and world) but we absolutely need them on our side in this moment in time.
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Where things are going there won't even be a chance to debate policy or the merits of government work because the entire focus is going to be keeping one party from destroying it all.

The Cheney's, Bushes, and any other of the GOP who've spoken out against Trump's lies are not people that we'd normally agree with anything (based on their voting history, and what they've done to the country and world) but we absolutely need them on our side in this moment in time.
Very true, because even if that side can slice 10-15% of Republican voters away from the Trump Party, come midterms and 2024, it's just going to make it that much harder for Trump to get elected again (or Hawley or whatever nut they nominate).
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Theres talk of pre GQP members splitting off and forming their own party. This would be a good thing at this moment in time.

It would kill any chance of this cult taking over government, with Republicans basically conceding the next few elections to Dems in order to build up their new party.

But will it happen ?

Then there’s things like this

https://twitter.com/glennkesslerwp/s...955320320?s=21

The GQP have no plan to win elections fairly anymore. They don’t have the demographics and they’ve only once in the last eight elections won more votes in the Presidential.

What we are seeing is their only move, voter suppression, intimidation, throwing out votes, and gerrymandering

I don’t get why this isn’t such a priority for democratic leadership.
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Yeah, either the GOP finds a way to reform itself without the crazies involved, or if it can't do that, it needs to just die as a party altogether. It certainly can't continue as it currently exists.

And what happens when Trump dies? That's another weird thing about all this, Trump isn't exactly a spring chicken, and isn't in the best of shape. But this is the guy they're forming their cult around, and betting their futures on?

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Then there’s things like this

https://twitter.com/glennkesslerwp/s...955320320?s=21

The GQP have no plan to win elections fairly anymore. They don’t have the demographics and they’ve only once in the last eight elections won more votes in the Presidential.

What we are seeing is their only move, voter suppression, intimidation, throwing out votes, and gerrymandering

I don’t get why this isn’t such a priority for democratic leadership.
It is. The problem is that we have a very slim majority, and people like Manchin causing bumps along the way. The Democrats want this stuff passed, the issue is figuring out how to work around the roadblocks we're dealing with to ensure it gets passed.
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And what happens when Trump dies?
We throw the biggest party ever with a crowd bigger than his inauguration?
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We throw the biggest party ever with a crowd bigger than his inauguration?
So about half the average number of folks who post on Interference on an average day.
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so about half the average number of folks who post on interference on an average day.
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When Trump dies there is Donnie Jr, Ivanka, Eric, Lara, Tiffany, grandchildren. They're the new Kennedys!

In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
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But there was no insurrection, he was just making a normal tourist visit to Pelosi's office.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-loyal-trump-claims-capitol-riot-looked-more-normal-tourist-n1267163

These people throw these lies out there because they know some people will believe it. Because they believed all of Trump's lies.
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You know what they say, the best tourist events are the ones where officers die.
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Seven years and financial ruin seem to fit the crime. Dude really believed he was doing patriotic work and wouldn’t be punished

I hope this is the first of many that end up in prison.

I also hope that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers get labeled a terrorist group and are disbanded like we did with ISIS (shut down their internet access, funding, and charged with crimes where applicable).

Unfortunately the GQP have already white washed the events of January 6th, so a third or more of the country believes it was BLM or Antifa behind the attack. Or worse that it was just a giant tourist trip that turned deadly cause the capital police killed a woman who just wanted to say hi to Nancy!!
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Seven years and financial ruin seem to fit the crime. Dude really believed he was doing patriotic work and wouldn’t be punished

I hope this is the first of many that end up in prison.
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Again, that Tweet has not been verified by anyone. There is no evidence that Barnett took a plea deal.
His last court appearance, his lawyer (being paid for, not a PD) refused the plea deal offer saying it was too harsh.
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You know what they say, the best tourist events are the ones where officers die.


I feel I’m being mischaracterized here.
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It is a wise move on ALL of your parts to be so obsessed with what the Republicans are doing, that you speak NOTHING about what the Democrats are doing.

The Democrats hold ALL three branches of government, they are in leadership, have only been for less than four months, and our country is going from one disaster to another.

Border crisis, Unemployment crisis, pipelines getting hacked, inflation crisis, gas shortages, Russia and Iran flexing again, and where’s Pedo Joe? Where’s Kamala? Where’s Pelosi? Where’s Schumer?

Biden won’t take “impromptu “ questions from reporters, if he takes any at all. Psaki is a “circle back” joke.

The public is once again being reminded what weak Democrat leadership looks like, and how we are screwed until someone can come in and fix it.

And it’s been less than four months. China is happy though!

And no more mean tweets! I didn’t like Trump either, but I agreed with most of his policies because they worked! Worked for America and Americans.

But go ahead and blame the Republicans when the Democrats are in charge of everything!

LOTS of buyer’s remorse out there. You got what you voted for.
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