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Old 11-10-2020, 05:11 PM   #921
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I still don’t see any legal standing for this election to be overturned. Is be more worried if the margin of victory was a lot smaller.

I think a lot of this is a distraction.


Same. I just refuse to believe this country is capable of letting something like this happen.
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Biden today. Just mildly intimidated?

The president-elect said he felt Republicans on Capitol Hill, the vast majority of whom have yet to admit that he won the election, were still “mildly intimidated” by Trump and unwilling to cross him.

He had harsher words for the President himself.

“It’s an embarrassment, quite frankly. ... I think it will not help the President’s legacy,” Biden said of Trump’s attempts to contest the election’s results.
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Seriously, let's hope they're able to keep the Trump family as busy with legal battles as possible. I don't want that family anywhere near the White House or any other political/media outlets or whatever ever again.

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I still don’t see any legal standing for this election to be overturned. Is be more worried if the margin of victory was a lot smaller.

I think a lot of this is a distraction.
I saw a tweet with a quote from a GOP official basically saying as much, claiming they're just trying to humor Trump for a while.

https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/st...24025777246208

Problem with that is, a) he's a 74 year old man, for fuck's sakes, not a toddler. Tell him to put his big boy pants on and get over it.

And b) people are actually being fired, so even if most of this is just to humor Trump, well, it still sounds pretty serious and isn't funny or cute to the rest of us. And it's only helping to further fan the flames of his deluded, potentially violent supporters who can't deal with the fact he lost, too. They need to quit coddling this asshole and tell him, "Fine, if you won't cooperate with the transition, we will. Don't like it? Tough."

Somebody needs to step in and get these people in line already, or make it clear that if they refuse to cooperate, they'll be thrown out. This is beyond ridiculous.
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Irony thy name is Donnie Jr


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“Nothing this grotesque can go on forever. The only solution is honesty. Let’s repeal our national dishonesty mandate and tell the truth about everything. Enforced lying is making everyone paranoid and crazy. The truth can’t be any worse.”

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I feel like this is a bad movie script

Everyone is like, nah this can’t happen here!
There’s no way they have any legal justification or footing. It’s just posturing

Until it isn’t.

At first i thought he’s firing all these people to get his minions in to destroy all evidence of wrong doing, and that may still be the case

But each day and more and more it feels like these guys believe they can go through with it.
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Can the states please finish counting and can this somehow be over?
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I think everyone should be acting under the assumption that it's just noise and bluster, but not take their eyes off the possibility that it's more than just noise.
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If Trump came from a military background and commanded the respect of military officers, I would be really worried right now, because historically (to my knowledge) these types of democracy-death situations have come from people who had the military resources to enforce their will. But if it really comes down to January 20 or whatever with Trump refusing to leave office, what is Mitch McConnell going to stand in the door and block the secret secret service from escorting him out?
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If Trump came from a military background and commanded the respect of the military officers, I would be really worried right now, because historically (to my knowledge) these types of democracy-death situations have come from people who had the military resources to enforce their will. But if it really comes down to January 20 or whatever with Trump refusing to leave office, what is Mitch McConnell going to stand in the door and block the secret secret service from escorting him out?


I can only stress enough that the president has done an intentional job of making people extremely polarized.

You can trust that amongst the ranks of secret servicemen, they are in fact divided and compromised.

Strangely, most of my confidence exists in... congress. Donald Trump would never make it through the senate.
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Oh Mitch would stand in the doorway
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I still don’t see any legal standing for this election to be overturned. Is be more worried if the margin of victory was a lot smaller.

I think a lot of this is a distraction.


They are not really basing the fight on recounts as they know they won’t win. The faithless electors/competing sets of electors seems to be the main (and most brazenly corrupt) way.
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There are *at least* 10 senators who are not Trump-compromised and would defend the very pillars of our democracy, which isn’t much to ask. Some of them play the Trump game because it’s good for them but would absolutely draw the line at “attempting to seize the office of the president of the United States of America.”
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I think everyone should be acting under the assumption that it's just noise and blister, but not take their eyes off the possibility that it's more than just noise.
this is where i sit (albeit as a foreigner).

my prediction is that the ted cruzes and lindsay grahams reluctantly fall into line behind the actual results one by one over the next few weeks as it becomes clear that it's just not happening. the trump team will eventually tire themselves out sometime in december and give up, like a toddler having a tantrum that it's time to leave the mcdonald's playpen.
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Graham is lost as fuck.

Ted Cruz is not and never was a Trumper. He’s a shrewd politician who will Trump until it’s tapped out.
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this is incredibly fucked up in so many ways. it'll basically be open season on protestors near any business.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...247094007.html
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There are *at least* 10 senators who are not Trump-compromised and would defend the very pillars of our democracy, which isn’t much to ask. Some of them play the Trump game because it’s good for them but would absolutely draw the line at “attempting to seize the office of the president of the United States of America.”
Are you talking about Republicans? Those cunts will take everything they can get, and if it means seizing the office of the president they'll do it. They'd already have done it if they'd had license to. They don't care about the office of the president or democracy or even honesty. If they did, they wouldn't be sitting by silently. I think it's fair to say that every single Republican is a fascist, and not in the hyperbolic sense.
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Are you talking about Republicans? Those cunts will take everything they can get, and if it means seizing the office of the president they'll do it. They'd already have done it if they'd had license to. They don't care about the office of the president or democracy or even honesty. If they did, they wouldn't be sitting by silently. I think it's fair to say that every single Republican is a fascist, and not in the hyperbolic sense.


I think you’re overreacting.

They’re all generally awful people sure, but this notion that they’re simply willing to throw out US democracy is nonsense. They’re willing to use whatever institutions that have already been established to control our democracy (such as the electoral college) but they’re not just suddenly about to end America as we know it.
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If Trump came from a military background and commanded the respect of military officers, I would be really worried right now, because historically (to my knowledge) these types of democracy-death situations have come from people who had the military resources to enforce their will. But if it really comes down to January 20 or whatever with Trump refusing to leave office, what is Mitch McConnell going to stand in the door and block the secret secret service from escorting him out?
I think a military background is not a necessary condition for a successful coup (not that I think that is likely), and the literature on this highlights a number of steps that coup-plotters can usually take to co-opt the military. The Erdogan template applies here, in my view. There are lots of ways in which one can stay in power unconstitutionally without ever sending the military into the streets. But there are a ton of factors that make it unlikely, not least the federal system, the sheer size of the country, and the high costs that a failed attempt would have on all involved.
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