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Old 11-07-2020, 08:13 AM   #501
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Desperate times call for desperate measures...
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He’s also complaining about the quality of his lawyers.

An insane client with insane lawsuits and a propensity to not pay you. Can’t imagine why nobody wants to help him out.
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John McCain's 2008 concession speech has gone viral. Now viewed over 12 million times. A reminder of what a mature adult looks like in defeat.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1324471312211988481
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Not exactly what we had in mind-Tom Morello

https://twitter.com/i/status/1324873177416273921
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:56 AM   #505
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Not exactly what we had in mind-Tom Morello

https://twitter.com/i/status/1324873177416273921


Woooow. Dancing to that specific song while holding a blue lives matter flag.

Wow.
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Next up for Trumpers-Cult Of Personality as an anti-Biden protest song
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New: latest Fulton Co. count pushes Biden's lead in GA to 7,248 votes. And it's entirely possible the bulk of the up to 8,900 overseas/military ballots will be very friendly to Biden, given the nature of the globe-trotting types who cast them.
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He’s also complaining about the quality of his lawyers.

An insane client with insane lawsuits and a propensity to not pay you. Can’t imagine why nobody wants to help him out.


An insane clown posse if you will
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:23 AM   #509
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Glad everyone had such a fun time looking through that old thread . A few names in there I miss.

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Oh, my god, this is simultaneously one of the saddest and most hilarious things I've ever read. Good lord, what a pathetic bunch.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:27 AM   #510
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They really need to call some states today. I got the tentativeness at first but it's getting ridiculous now.
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Should have been yesterday.
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Any thoughts on AOC’s social media blasts after the election ?

I’ll preface things by saying i think she’s incredibly smart, savvy, and does a great job of questioning during hearings. These are qualities i look for when i say fight for democracy. She would be on my short list for speaker if that opens up (Katie Porter would be number one for me)

That being said

After this election she has tweeted that we should make lists of our political enemies to punish them for what they’ve done.

Attacked Lincoln Project as a scam group despite no real evidence at the moment.

The claims that it was progressive ideals that won the election when clearly it was a centrist candidate who was overwhelmingly supported by the black community that did it.

Yes the squad was re-elected despite loads of $$ and hate against them but was there really any doubt ? Did progressives pick up more seats than before in congress ?

My views on the Lincoln Project is I’d like to see more data from the election to see if their scorched earth approach to trump and gop had a noticeable effect. During this election i don’t know of any other group that called out their own with such ferociousness. I think George Conway is a scam artist, like his wife, but Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson both appear to have evolved.

And this is an area where progressives miss the mark and can drive people away

Humans evolve. Our preferences change through experience. It doesn’t mean the past is wiped clean but to continue to punish someone if they’ve shown true remorse, accountability, and live a better life from this moment forward....it’s enough to push them away and who knows where they’ll end up.

I want the GOP and Trump to pay for their crimes but it needs to happen through the justice system. There needs to be hearings, investigations, and ultimately the truth will come out.

You cannot have justice without the truth. We all have seen the corruption with our own eyes but in this country and what we stand for is a fair process and trial.

Anyway, i want the Dems to investigate as much as possible but i don’t think publicly attacking and mini fascist rants of paybacks is the way to go
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US Politics XXX: The type of film Donald wants to watch Ivanka in

When the entire country except a bunch of sycophantic supporters knows who won the election, it is kind of pointless for networks to withhold their calls. Really bewildering, particularly given the abundance of information coming from PA.

If the threshold is 99.5 certainty, and you have that overwhelming preponderance of evidence across 4 states (only 2 of which are needed in the worst case scenarios) the range of possibilities is incredibly small. I can’t imagine there is a higher than 0.5% probability that Biden is not President (even if the probability in any individual state may be slightly lower than that).

That said, networks are pretty competitive about this thing so given the abundance of caution across the board there may be some uncertainty there. But it is making the whole exercise pointless (especially since a “call” is not an official pronouncement in any way).
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Trump's having a "lawyers press conference" at 11 in Philly. This will be good.*

*aggravating
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And people seriously thought this nutjob deserved another term.

If he does happen to leave somehow before January, I would be completely fine with that.
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Here’s a nice summation on how AP calls races.

https://www.ap.org/en-us/topics/poli...-we-call-races
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According to NYT, there will be a significant vote report from Arizona in an hour or so. Hopefully that will be enough to call there and put some pressure on other states to do the same.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:25 AM   #518
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US Politics XXX: The type of film Donald wants to watch Ivanka in

Not sure how much that will change things since AP and Fox already called Arizona days ago.

I guess it could lead the way to Nevada.

It’s really all about PA.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:33 AM   #519
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I believe we're supposed to get more from Nevada as well.

I'm hoping one call on any of these states just opens the floodgates. I get the right to be careful when the president is openly questioning the legitimacy of our democracy, but at the same time you can't just hold up the inevitable at the whim of a mad man.
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In Arizona, Trump continues to gain on Biden. At this pace, he won't over take him. But he could close to within .5 or so, and there's enough left that it's hard to 1000% rule out the possibility he can't win the rest by 20, without better data.

Grrrrrr....
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