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Old 10-25-2020, 05:40 PM   #1001
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US Politics XXVII: Orange Super Spreader

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South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham's team has accused his rival of trying to "buy a Senate seat" as the incumbent Republican lags in the fundraising race.
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Yeah, the US is too freaking special to do what so many other countries have done. A country wide mask mandate, to help mitigate covid.

Orange super spreader is the divider in chief who has ignored the experts and science, mocked masks and people who wear them. And his followers imitate that. If Biden wins the Trump followers will still keep doing that. Mandate the crap out of them is what I say.
Your federal penalty for non-compliance is what?
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Your federal penalty for non-compliance is what?
ADX Florence supermax prison or French kiss the orange super spreader. Sophie's choice, I know.
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this map is pretty much impossible, thankfully.

if NC and PA go for biden then as per 538 the chances of each of those 3 midwestern states individually being red is 2% or less (less than 1% for MI). a blue iowa alone puts trump's chances at >1% in each of WI/MI/MN.

this is a fun map tool to play with: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...p/?cid=abcnews


I absolutely in every way challenge 538s predictive analytics for scenario based odds for starts, and would also love to point out that when it comes to probabilities, every map is a low likelihood.

On the note of PA versus MI/OH/WI, Biden has been pushing the Scranton appeal, hovering over the state, and has been outpacing other midwestern state polls. Also, PA is otherwise containing a city that isn’t midwestern city... Philadelphia. Those NE cities are angrier and more populous.

I think Trump will win the Midwest, marginally, but not PA because of the Philadelphia factor.
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ADX Florence supermax prison or French kiss the orange super spreader. Sophie's choice, I know.


Ok with me.

Prison, at least.
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Your federal penalty for non-compliance is what?
That’s now how most national mandates work anywhere else, but I’m not sure whether I need to tell you that or you’re being purposely obtuse.

A national mandate typically works in a way that it is endorsed at the national level (with various regional/state/provincial governor equivalents supporting it by way of unanimous agreement) and then it is actually passed and endorsed at the city/county level.

But of course you have many similarly obtuse GOP governors who would rather have people and businesses die than require that their citizens suffer the indignity of wearing a thin piece of cloth across their face when shopping/working, etc indoors. For all your talk of snowflakes...
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I absolutely in every way challenge 538s predictive analytics for scenario based odds for starts, and would also love to point out that when it comes to probabilities, every map is a low likelihood.

On the note of PA versus MI/OH/WI, Biden has been pushing the Scranton appeal, hovering over the state, and has been outpacing other midwestern state polls. Also, PA is otherwise containing a city that isn’t midwestern city... Philadelphia. Those NE cities are angrier and more populous.

I think Trump will win the Midwest, marginally, but not PA because of the Philadelphia factor.
The pandemic has been the single strongest negative influence on his polling and it has never been worse than it currently is in the midwest, particularly Wisconsin, a present epicenter. He barely won WI and MI the first time around against a much less popular candidate with a sub-50% overall vote share.
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That’s now how most national mandates work anywhere else, but I’m not sure whether I need to tell you that or you’re being purposely obtuse.

A national mandate typically works in a way that it is endorsed at the national level (with various regional/state/provincial governor equivalents supporting it by way of unanimous agreement) and then it is actually passed and endorsed at the city/county level.

But of course you have many similarly obtuse GOP governors who would rather have people and businesses die than require that their citizens suffer the indignity of wearing a thin piece of cloth across their face when shopping/working, etc indoors. For all your talk of snowflakes...
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The pandemic has been the single strongest negative influence on his polling and it has never been worse than it currently is in the midwest, particularly Wisconsin, a present epicenter. He barely won WI and MI the first time around against a much less popular candidate with a sub-50% overall vote share.

Yep. I was in northern Wisconsin last weekend on vacation, normally very conservative bit there were Biden signs all over which was a really big surprise.
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The pandemic has been the single strongest negative influence on his polling and it has never been worse than it currently is in the midwest, particularly Wisconsin, a present epicenter. He barely won WI and MI the first time around against a much less popular candidate with a sub-50% overall vote share.

Black lives matter as a movement has, in my theory, caused voter engagement to skyrocket.

Overrating Covid, underrating the new source of voters. I’m in Florida right now and have been up and down the whole coast. Trump signs everywhere. Young and old are indoctrinated. Mask usage is down and Fox News echos in the streets. It’s easy to not be responsible when you can lie to yourself and take the easy way out.

Voting on the basis of Covid is a *losing effort* for democrats because people are enticed by the fools gold that paints a bright future next month, and they don’t give a fuck about the reality of all the dead people because they don’t think it’ll be them.
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It’s cute when you get caught in the little web you think you’ve cleverly spun and then pull this passive aggressive thing.
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In other news, Mitchel McConnell’s hands look reeeeally weird (I promise I’m being literal).
His rotted soul is spreading outward.
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It’s cute when you get caught in the little web you think you’ve cleverly spun and then pull this passive aggressive thing.


The right have nothing. They have been exposed for what they are, nothing but greed and hatred.

No defense. No solutions. Just own the libs. No policy, hurt their own base to make a point.

At least on the left side of things there’s a debate on how to govern and make the world a better place.
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Your federal penalty for non-compliance is what?
Declare them anarchist jurisdictions.

I believe there's some recent precedent.
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