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Old 10-23-2020, 12:52 PM   #921
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Perhaps liberals would be less concerned about a fascist takeover in this country if their president didn't speak and act like an authoritarian. Trump attempting to strong arm the states over the summer and getting slapped down by numerous governors was a turning point in this election IMO.
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:58 PM   #922
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Trump won this debate, handily. Biden wasn’t a force at all. Trump was substantive, on-point, well-tempered. Definitely helped himself, when it mattered most.

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Old 10-23-2020, 01:55 PM   #924
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Wow, I didn't realize Greenwald was one of those types. Recent thread on twitter:









Anyone think there's any truth in all that?
No. The media does for sure sensationalize a lot but there’s no denying that Trump’s actions resemble a fascist. It’s not like they just made that up.
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It’s all projection with these people.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:13 PM   #926
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Trump's health care plan is coming any day now, and it will be tremendous

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Alternative title - 50 shades of orange sweatiness.
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No. The media does for sure sensationalize a lot but there’s no denying that Trump’s actions resemble a fascist. It’s not like they just made that up.


Agreed. Though I think it’s hilarious when they claim CNN and msnbc are the ones perpetuating that trump is a fascist. Pretty sure that point of view comes independently. It’s the CNNs of this world who make people like Bill Kristol etc seem better than they are. Which the left, id argue, sees right through. They just choose to ignore it, because right now I believe it’s easy to make the statement that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Most scholars of democracy agree, so it's not the media.
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Melania had enough of the phony hand holding again last night

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I know some people posted their maps earlier which was cool to see. I know we are all nervous and cautious. But I’m starting to lean Biden/Dem landslide territory more than a nominal 310 or 320 win. The Economist and 538 have Biden winning 412 EC votes as the very close 3rd most likely outcome, at 48%. 374 is 2nd at 51%. I think this is where we are headed.
I'm glad that you're feeling optimistic because each day I feel more and more panic and dread.
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The GOP, fighting for the most pressing issues Americans have in 2020.

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I believe he’s paid in rubles these days.

I used to really admire Greenwald, like, 18 years ago when he wrote for Salon.
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Old 10-23-2020, 04:18 PM   #933
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I'm glad that you're feeling optimistic because each day I feel more and more panic and dread.
I'm glad I felt that way last night. LOL. But yeah, I mean, I've been pretty certain for the most part Joe will win bigger than just squeaking past with 280 or something.

I've been feeling a little better about NC and FL over the past week or two. lt got really tight for a while. AZ seems to be hanging on. The map I posted of what I thought would happen, puts Biden at 350. This is with GA going Biden and IA going Trump. It very well could be that it goes the opposite way with IA looking a bit better this past week. Or Biden could lose both. Either way those two are gonna be really tight. But beyond that I think Biden will do very well, and pick up NC/FL/AZ beyond the midwest 3
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Until I am shown convincing evidence that PA, MI or WI will be close, I see no reason to be concerned. I'm sure Joe will steal another one out of AZ, NC, FL, IA, OH, GA and that will slam the door.
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https://twitter.com/jysexton/status/...601631234?s=21

At some point whipping up all this fear is going to have an effect and turn into tragedy.
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Until I am shown convincing evidence that PA, MI or WI will be close, I see no reason to be concerned. I'm sure Joe will steal another one out of AZ, NC, FL, IA, OH, GA and that will slam the door.
And there isn't any evidence of Biden losing those three. The only worry from me, is that if Biden doesn't pick up NC and AZ, or FL, and Trump drags out PA and possibly MI with lawsuits of ballots that arrive after election day, etc... then we will have a shit show for a while.
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The Pennsylvania state Supreme Court ruled Friday that ballots in the state cannot be rejected because of signature comparisons, backing up guidance issued by the state’s chief elections officer heading into Pennsylvania’s first presidential election with no-excuse mail voting.

The ruling is a defeat for President Donald Trump’s campaign and other Republicans, who had challenged the decision by Pennsylvania election officials, arguing that efforts to match signatures on ballots to signatures on voter rolls were necessary to prevent fraud.


“We conclude that the Election Code does not authorize or require county election boards to reject absentee or mail-in ballots during the canvassing process based on an analysis of a voter’s signature,” the state Supreme Court wrote in an opinion signed six of the seven justices, including five Democrats and one Republican.

The seventh justice, another Republican, concurred with the ruling..

The court directs “the county boards of elections not to reject absentee or mail-in ballots for counting, computing, and tallying based on signature comparisons conducted by county election officials or employees, or as the result of third party challenges based on such comparisons.”

Already, just under 1.5 million Pennsylvanians have already submitted their ballots in 2020, according to the U.S. Elections Project. That’s a significant share of the vote in Pennsylvania, where about 6.2 million people voted in the 2016 general election.
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Until I am shown convincing evidence that PA, MI or WI will be close, I see no reason to be concerned. I'm sure Joe will steal another one out of AZ, NC, FL, IA, OH, GA and that will slam the door.
While Biden is obviously the favorite, I think the main issue is that these results are not independent from each other, so if for some reason Trump overperforms in one of these places (say, due to higher turnout than Democrats or because polls overstated support for Biden amongst white working class people), combined with possible shenanigans over mail ballots, it is not unthinkable that a number of these states will move in his direction.

That said, it's just as likely that polls are underrating Biden. So I'm very cautiously optimistic.
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A 10% chance of cataclysm is too damn high for my taste.
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We've been living through a cataclysm for the last 8 months. If there's a 90% chance that extremely good news is coming, I'm going to jump on it.

But we all have different ways of coping.
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