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Old 10-09-2020, 03:12 PM   #301
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Jesus, nobody gives a shit anymore.

In other news, Lady G is refusing to take a Covid test before his next debate. He looked like shit in the last one so odds are he has it.

There should be NO hearings held in the Senate until and unless every member can provide a negative test. For God’s sake we force 5-year-old kindergarten kids to submit to tests before returning to daycare if the catch a sniffle but these assholes think they’re above it?
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Old 10-09-2020, 03:39 PM   #302
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Like I said the other day, at some point someone is going to have to step in and do something, or at least, there may come a point when they literally have no choice but to do something. And that may well have to be Pelosi/the Democrats, solely because a) at the rate the GOP is getting sick there may eventually not be enough of them left in office to do anything even if they wanted to, and b) we cannot continue to entertain this insanity any longer. At some point someone has to show that they're in control. Pence, if he were responsible, should be taking on that role right now. But he's not, and that's presuming he's even healthy at the moment. So if he and the rest of the GOP are abdicating their responsibilities or too sick to do anything, well...

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President Trump would interrupt coronavirus task force meetings with protracted and irrelevant “rants” about his coverage on Fox News, causing his aides to “look down at the floor” in embarrassment, says a former member of the task force.

Even Vice President Mike Pence would “look stressed” at those moments, said Olivia Troye, who until July had served as Pence’s homeland security adviser and top aide on the coronavirus task force, during an interview on the Yahoo News “Skullduggery” podcast.

“When the president goes off on these rants and he goes off topic, it’s really just awkward for everybody in the room,” she added.
So hey, here's a thought, people: why didn't any of you just tell him point blank to shut the hell up and focus? Or leave the room if he wasn't going to talk about any of this stuff? Or something? Looking down in embarrassment didn't exactly solve anything, did it?

I just don't understand. He behaves like an overgrown toddler. How have so many people been that unable to control him these past four years?

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"Meal Team Six" was a good one as well.
LOL, nice! I missed that one.
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this could be really detrimental to hillary's chances in november.
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I hate money in politics, but I love donating against Lindsey Graham.
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:05 PM   #306
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People do have a point when they point out that there are sometimes white supremacist sympathizers/enablers in law enforcement.

Like we have here.
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People talk about packing the Court as such a break to institutional norms, when Republicans are out there refusing COVID tests so that nothing gets in the way of confirming their extremist judge.
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People talk about packing the Court as such a break to institutional norms, when Republicans are out there refusing COVID tests so that nothing gets in the way of confirming their extremist judge.


Confirming ACB is itself a form of court packing.
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This is a very good ad:

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Debate cancelled. Good.
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Some anecdotal encouragement: There’s a house a block away that always had a Trump sign, and one of the cars has a trump bumper sticker and various stickers like “The Constitution: frustrating liberals since 1776” and the like. About a month ago, I noticed that both aforementioned stickers are no longer on the car, and while there is still a yard sign for a Republican congressman, the Trump sign is gone, replaced with a handwritten “Old Lives Matter” sign.

Also, passed a home today that had a sign for that same Republican congressman, but also a Biden/Harris sign.
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“The Constitution: frustrating liberals since 1776” .
Wow.

But that is a very interesting observation there all the same, yeah. Thanks for sharing that. A promising sign indeed.

Also, today my mom and I went down to the courthouse and voted, and there were quite a lot of people coming in to vote. Apparently from what I've read, there's been a pretty strong voter turnout in the state thus far .
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I turned in my mail in ballot today, in the dropbox outside the town clerk's office. I didn't even want to take a chance on the official dropbox outside.

Exercising my right to vote against that misogynist racist narcissist was the only true happiness I've had in a long time.
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Maybe Jared is in hiding from this. Downright criminal

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Months before Bob Woodward’s book “Rage” documented President Trump’s efforts to deceive Americans about the peril posed by covid-19, Robert F. Kennedy’s twenty-six-year-old grandson tried to blow the whistle on the President’s malfeasance from an improbable perch—inside Trump’s coronavirus task force.

In April, Max Kennedy, Jr., despite having signed a nondisclosure agreement, sent an anonymous complaint to Congress detailing dangerous incompetence in the Administration’s response to the pandemic. On the phone recently from Hyannis Port, Massachusetts, Kennedy explained why he’d alerted Congress. “I just couldn’t sleep,” he said. “I was so distressed and disturbed by what I’d seen.”

How did a Kennedy end up in a sensitive role in the Trump Administration? After graduating from Harvard, in 2016, Kennedy did some time at consulting and investment firms; he planned to take the LSAT in March, but the pandemic cancelled it. At loose ends, he responded to a friend’s suggestion that he join a volunteer task force that Jared Kushner was forming, to get vital personal protective equipment, such as masks, to virus hot spots. Kushner, he was told, was looking for young generalists who could work long hours for no pay. “I was torn, to some extent,” Kennedy, a lifelong Democrat, said. “But it was such an unprecedented time. It didn’t seem political—it seemed larger than the Administration.” And he knew people who’d been sick. So in March he volunteered for the White House covid-19 Supply-Chain Task Force, and drove to Washington.


On his first day, he showed up at the headquarters of the Federal Emergency Management Agency and joined around a dozen other volunteers, all in their twenties, mostly from the finance sector and with no expertise in procurement or medical issues. He was surprised to learn that they weren’t to be auxiliaries supporting the government’s procurement team. “We were the team,” he said. “We were the entire frontline team for the federal government.” The volunteers were tasked with finding desperately needed medical supplies using only their personal laptops and private e-mail accounts.

As the days passed, and the death count climbed, Kennedy was alarmed at the way the President was downplaying the crisis. “I knew from that room that he was saying things that just weren’t true,” he said. Trump told the public that the government was doing all it could, but the P.P.E. emergency was being managed by a handful of amateurs. “It was the number of people who show up to an after-school event, not to run the greatest crisis in a hundred years,” Kennedy said. “It was such a mismatch of personnel. It was one of the largest mobilization problems ever. It was so unbelievably colossal and gargantuan. The fact that they didn’t want to get any more people was so upsetting.”


Kennedy believes that the Administration relied on volunteers in order to sidestep government experts and thereby “control the narrative.” He said that Brad Smith, one of the political appointees who directed the task force, pressured him to create a model fudging the projected number of fatalities; Smith wanted the model to predict a high of a hundred thousand U.S. deaths, claiming that the experts’ models were “too severe.” Kennedy said that he told Smith, “I don’t know the first thing about disease modelling,” and declined the assignment. (A spokesman said that Smith did not recall the conversation.) To date, nearly two hundred thousand Americans have died.

The volunteers were also instructed to prioritize requests from the President’s friends and supporters. According to Kennedy, the group paid special attention to Jeanine Pirro, the Fox News personality. Pirro, Kennedy said, was “particularly aggressive,” and demanded that masks be shipped to a hospital she favored. The volunteers were also told to direct millions of dollars’ worth of supplies to only five preselected distributors. Kennedy was asked to draft a justification for this decision, but refused. “Hundreds of people were sending e-mails every day offering P.P.E.,” he said, but no one in charge responded effectively. “We were super frustrated we couldn’t get the government to do more."



In the end, the task force failed to procure enough equipment, leaving medical workers, including Kennedy’s cousin, to improvise by wearing garbage bags and makeshift or pre-worn masks. States were left to fend for themselves, bidding against one another for scarce supplies. Kennedy was disgusted to see that the political appointees who supervised him were hailing Trump as “a marketing genius,” because, Kennedy said they’d told him, “he personally came up with the strategy of blaming the states.” The response was in line with what Kennedy calls the White House mantra: that government doesn’t work, and “that the worst thing we could do was step on the toes of the private sector.”

Kushner came by the FEMA office a few times, once to ask the flailing volunteers what three things they most needed, and promising fixes by the end of the day. He had “an air of self-importance,” Kennedy recalled. “But I never saw a single thing that Kushner promised change.” After two or three weeks of growing distress, Kennedy wrote his complaint, addressing it to the House Oversight Committee, hoping that Congress would step in. Meanwhile, the task force stopped meeting in person, because a member tested positive for covid-19. In April, Kennedy quit, and he has since gone to work on the Democrats’ 2020 election efforts. He decided to defy the N.D.A., which he does not think can legally stifle him from expressing his opinion, and he is featured in a new documentary, “Totally Under Control,” from the director Alex Gibney. Kennedy said, “If you see something that might be illegal, and cause thousands of civilian lives to be lost, a person has to speak out.” The Administration’s coronavirus response, he said, “was like a family office meets organized crime, melded with ‘Lord of the Flies.’ It was a government of chaos.” ♦
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I'm glad he's speaking out. I hope he continues to do so. I hope everyone this administration tried to silence keeps finding ways to speak out.

And I hope that every single person who was involved in trying to cover up and downplay this virus and the handling of it and so forth faces every kind of criminal charge imaginable when we get people who are actually capable of holding them accountable in charge again.
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I have Hulu, got it last Nov for a year $1.99 a month. I will watch this.

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Not sure exactly what Democrats means in this instance, but just saw a banner at the bottom of the screen for a second that said Democrats raised $625 million in the last 3 weeks.

I'm guessing all House, Senate and Presidential, and maybe all state level??
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Sigh, I can't wait for the post election drama when Trump throws his children to the wolves.

https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/st...86991485685760
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