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Old 10-03-2020, 08:59 PM   #741
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Can’t stress enough how dangerous it is to have no functional government during these times.

Congress, the White House, and everyone who works in the DC area to support these two establishments have been put at risk of getting sick and not being able to do their jobs.

There are a lot of bad actors out there who have to be plotting how they can take advantage of America’s blind spot right now.
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:32 PM   #742
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Hmmmmm... Let’s see. If I see vile people that have done everything they can to push everyday Americans back into the fire of a raging virus, I will absolutely applaud them getting burned.

I’ve worn my mask, stayed sheltered, have my kid at home for school, sanitized my damn groceries and sure as hell don’t go to political rallies. I’m hoping I can pay my mortgage next month because my household lost a job to Covid and there is only one group of people to blame for our country not flattening the cases in this country early and then opening back up safely. Republicans at every level.

These people are the reason hundreds of thousands of people are DEAD. And 7.5 million have been infected. Yet, we should be heartbroken when they go out and hug and kiss and shake hands and sit 3 inches apart, knowing the science, but not wanting to hurt ONE sociopath’s feelings?

Give me a fucking break. My level of coma passion is NOT the problem in this equation.

Oh. And I hope Trump is enjoying his radical far left socialist medical treatment he’s getting from our tax dollars.
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:53 PM   #743
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Maybe to dumb it down a bit for you... If there were a group of arsonists that were setting fires to people’s houses in your town. They had killed dozens of people. And Injured thousands of others. One night a house lit on fire collapses and few of them get some burns. Do you feel great compassion for them? Any? Didn’t think so.
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spare us all, BW. these are the people who demanded HRC end her campaign and started writing obits because she stumbled in 100 degree heat and got sick once.


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Trumpworld delighted in cruelty. Now that Trump has COVID, it demands empathy.

Trumpists love their Dear Leader in no small measure because of his talent for unapologetically engaging in abject cruelty.

Whether he was mocking a disabled reporter's affliction and delighting in Hillary Clinton's health travails on the 2016 campaign trail or separating migrant children with Down syndrome from their parents and ridiculing Joe Biden's son's struggle with drug addiction during his time in office — Trump supporters can't get enough of the Dear Leader triggering the libs, or really anyone with a conscience.

To his fervent supporters, Trump's callous viciousness is funny. It's the humorless politically correct scolds and loser Never Trumper conservatives who need to lighten up, they say.

Now that President Trump and first lady Melania have tested positive for COVID-19, Trumpworld has discovered the value of empathy. And they are shocked — shocked! — that some of Trump's critics have delighted in the irony of Trump's coronavirus denialism contributing to his own infection.

On Trump's favorite show, "Fox and Friends," on Friday morning, the conservative Washington Examiner correspondent writer Byron York said, "This is a time for people to pray for their leaders, to wish them well," adding that the Trump critics snarking over his illness would likely come to regret being so mean to the president.

The conservative commentator Ben Shapiro, who sells "Leftist Tears" cups on his website, sarcastically tweeted Friday: "Looking forward to all the kind-hearted expressions of sympathy to Trump and Melania from the blue-checkmark Left."

While Shapiro has been cagey in his support for Trump — distinguishing himself from "Never Trump" by calling himself "Sometimes Trump" — he's demonstrated a Trumpian comfortability for mocking the ill, such as when he joked in 2016 that then Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who was sick with pneumonia, "should pledge to defeat ISIS by coughing on them."

The Trumpist podcaster Dan Bongino, who this week praised Trump as "an apex warrior" following his disgraceful debate performance, on Friday tweeted: "This morning is the strongest reminder in a long time about how sick and disgusting the Left is."

Bongino's tone-policing is particularly rich given his proclamation in 2018: "My entire life right now is about owning the libs."

Explicitly laying out his support of "the combative, no-retreat style, of Donald Trump," Bongino wrote: "We will own the Libs today, we will own the Libs tomorrow, we will own the Libs next month, and next year. We will not be retreating or apologizing anymore."

To be sure, even an amoral bully like Trump deserves sympathy for contracting a dreaded disease that's already killed 200,000 of his fellow Americans. Anyone wishing for his suffering can't claim any moral high ground.

But in a roundup of "liberal ghouls"' tweets on his site, Bongino conflates some truly vicious comments from partisan activists with reasonable and fact-based tweets such as NBC News correspondent Heidi Przybyla saying, "After months of publicly rejecting the advice of his own medical experts, President Trump has fallen victim to his own false narrative around the risks of the coronavirus."

It is completely appropriate and relevant to point out that Trump contracted a disease whose lethality he willfully lied to the American public about. He also personally made mask-wearing the dumbest culture-war battle of our time.

And even after tepidly walking back his mask skepticism over the summer, he mocked Biden at this week's debate for often he wears masks:

"I don't wear face masks like him. Every time you see him he's got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away ... and he shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen."

At that same debate on Tuesday, Trump's guests were offered surgical masks by Cleveland Clinic doctors. They refused.

Now that Trump, Melania, White House senior adviser Hope Hicks, and Republican National Committee chair Ronna McDaniel have all tested positive for COVID-19, perhaps the president and his supporters will at last take the pandemic seriously and engage in very simple and easy preventative measures.

These would include wearing masks, discouraging large crowds, and eschewing the spread of coronavirus conspiracy theories that misinform millions of people who hang on the president's every word.

While it's unkind and inhumane to take delight in another person's suffering, there's not a thing wrong with criticizing Trump's handling of the virus and saying that in some ways he brought this on himself.

Trumpists who've luxuriated in the president's cruelty should recognize the difference.
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It's very similar to the right's constant, "So much for the tolerant left!" thing they love to spout. Because apparently they still can't seem to figure out the difference between wanting people to be tolerant of different sexual orientations or races or ethnicities or so forth-you know, aspects of people that don't hurt anyone and which are an integral part of who they are, and wanting people to be tolerant of racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic views. Things that do hurt people and viewpoints which you're not born having and can choose not to have at any time.

ETA: There's also the fact that even now, people in the White House continue to currently lie and obfuscate the truth about what's really going on, which, as has been noted numerous times, puts our nation as a whole at risk in terms of national security, and there's people in the White House still refusing to quarantine even after all that's happened in the last couple days.

I guarantee, if the Obama or Clinton administrations had pulled that kind of extremely dangerous stunt, and were that deliberate in their lies and refusal to follow laws and rules and norms, nobody would give them a pass, nobody would ask for sympathy or empathy or compassion. And rightly so. Same logic applies here.
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My sister postponed her wedding. My uncle still hasn’t had a funeral. He died (not COVID) in May.

Amy and Trump got their little party!
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https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/131...310971392?s=19

Looks like ole Ron was Putin a qtip up his nose on the way to a fundraiser
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The pictures of Trump “working” from Walter Reed have a distinct late-Soviet aesthetic.
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Old 10-04-2020, 01:03 AM   #749
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These are the people we’re supposed to feel sorry for:

https://mobile.twitter.com/asbildner...45194886209536
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Old 10-04-2020, 01:26 AM   #750
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These are the people we’re supposed to feel sorry for:

https://mobile.twitter.com/asbildner...45194886209536


It is fine and normal to feel happy when abusers like Trump and Christie and Scott suffer the consequences of their abuses.

I do not wish death on anyone. But some measure of pleasure in their Just Desserts is absolutely human.
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You (Drumph, Repugs enablers) don't get sympathy when you've dished various massive amounts degrees of cruelty, bullying, racism, sexism, ridicule, lying, further shredding the safety net, etc over, and over and... in general these past ? 3.1 years

Then add add another .8 year of LYING to us about covid19! Then you drumph & co go to the debate knowing your infected maskless, and then NJ.


-----> See this . <---- world's smallest violin.
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He posted a new video on Twitter, he is not in bad condition. CNN is showing the video.
I don't know if this has been discussed, but not go full-on conspiracy theory, that video is VERY clearly edited to cover him doing something. Likely coughing.
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I mean I think the video shows he’s ill. He’s pale and sounds hoarse. But I don’t think there’s any reason to believe he’s in a worse condition than he’s presented.

He sure as fuck isn’t doing any real work though.
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I believe he was writing out the Fox News schedule for the week since he left his TV Guide back in the oval
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The pictures of Trump “working” from Walter Reed have a distinct late-Soviet aesthetic.

They are so clearly staged. Signing a blank piece of paper, moving to another room and putting on a jacket, etc.


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I’m surprised he didn’t insist on his hair getting done.
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They are so clearly staged. Signing a blank piece of paper, moving to another room and putting on a jacket, etc.


lol
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So I thought it would be interesting to go back and look at 2012 results and see why I am bullish on some states (GA and AZ) while I'm skeptical of others (IA) and why NC is like a mini FL.

Biggest thing, is look at the shift in the midwest states. Just enormous. But then see AZ, GA and TX. Large shifts to the left. While FL and NC has sort of remained static, making them hard to predict.

I think GA has a real shot to go blue, because of the consistent trend left. I think TX is headed that way but will probably fall short this cycle, since it is just outside of the average shift to Biden that we see. I also think we are seeing near Obama 2012 numbers for Biden in the midwest this time around, which makes some sense, although a lot of this driven by Covid attitudes of voters and how Trump handled it. Ohio will be close. There's this narrative out there that OH has been lost for Dems and its a red state now. But Obama won it twice. But it did have a harder shift right than other midwest states, so it will be down to the wire here. The craziest shift is IA. That shifted 15 points right. That's why I think IA is just too far of a swing back for Biden to win it this time.


2012 AZ R+10 2016 - R+3.5 Shift - D 6.5
2012 FL D+1 2016 - R+1.3 Shift - R 2.3
2012 GA R+8 2016 - R+5 Shift - D 3.0
2012 IA D+6 2016 - R+9 Shift - R 15.0
2012 MI D+9 2016 - R +.5 Shift - R 9.5
2012 MN D+8 2016 - D+1.8 Shift - R 6.2
2012 WI D+7 2016 - R +.5 Shift - R 7.5
2012 PA D+5 2016 - R +.5 Shift - R 5.5
2012 OH D+2 2016 - R +8 Shift - R 10.0
2012 NC R+3 2016 - R +3.7 Shift - R .7
2012 TX R+16 2016 - R +9 Shift - D 7.0
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