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womanfish said:
Trump already has said he will be putting forth a nominee in the next few days. He never even gave condolences before announcing that.
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Of course he didn't. He's nothing but a self serving narcissistic ghoul.

He wouldn't mean a word of it, and her family doesn't need it from him. RBG was an intellectual giant, a tiny tour de force, a cancer warrior, an inspiration. Trump is an empty shell of nothingness.
 
McConnell 2016-“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new President"
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
McConnell 2016-“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new President"
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If he hasn't already said it, you know exactly what he's going to say: "Well, Donald Trump is available for re-election. Obama wasn't."
 
As one of only nine women in a class of some 500 men, she remembered the dean inviting the female students to dinner at his home and asking, “Why are you at Harvard Law School, taking the place of a man?”

Ginsburg earned her law degree at Columbia University in 1959, tying for first in her class, and as one of fewer than 20 female law professors in the country, she taught at Rutgers Law School, after no law firm would hire her — based on her gender.
 
What happens when Trump challenges the results and it goes before this court. Assuming it the seat doesn’t get filled it’s a 5-3 vote
 
phanan said:
If this goes through, time for Biden to push headlong for increasing the Supreme Court.
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Hell, honestly, if they do win and we get a Democratic majority in Congress as well, I say that once they're in office, they should just go right ahead and reverse/remove as many of Trump's judicial appointees as possible and start completely anew. Trump had no problem trying to dismantle every last thing Obama did, after all, so why shouldn't we play by those same rules? The Democrats are going to need to cleanse the White House and all associated elements of Trump's stain anyway, so... Besides that, his appointees came about as the result of a very compromised and corrupt administration. Trump got impeached over everything with Russia, for cripes' sakes. With those kinds of extraordinary circumstances, I don't think we should have to honor anything or anyone he and his administration in general put into place and let it stand.

But of course, I doubt they'd be willing to go that nuclear with their moves, so in that case, yes, definitely echoing the suggestion to pack the courts and giving statehood to D.C. and Puerto Rico.
 
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Irvine511 said:
I do think the D’s are going to be much more motivated by this.
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This is the one thing that's helping me feel a little better about all of this. There's definitely a fire being lit under a lot of people, for sure, and I really hope that does translate into some significant action/voter turnout/etc, and actually leads to some positive outcomes besides.
 
How did it get to the point that an 87 year old woman in a prolonged battle with cancer was a key bulwark for the Democrats?
 
Just called Mitch in DC. Shocking, his voicemail inbox is full. Or they have shut it down.

Lindsay, Mitch, Trump...they all need to go bye bye. Confederacy of dunces.
 
Not sure I’ve felt this kind of unease since 9/11. That was such a jolt to the system, and surreal to see lines of cars pulling into the gas station next to where i lived at the time. But that was immediate threat. This has been brewing for a long time.

I cannot imagine how i would feel if i were a woman, minority, gay, or have health issues. Throw in not living in Southern California

This thread is really good and sobering too.

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It’s also that Democratic voters have not been driven by SCOTUS composition as a major issue the way Republicans have. They have been single issue voters on this for decades.

If this lights a fire under the left’s ass, the GOP will be in massive trouble. But we’ll still have to live with McTurtle’s hypocrisy.
 
The doomsday clock should read 11:59:58

Because the only chance for survival is for a dem sweep this election.

If Biden wins but Senate stays as is, nothing will get done, instead the GOP Supreme Court will strike down previous laws or anything that Biden might EO

ACA
Marriage Equality
Climate Regulations
Corporate regulations
Reproductive rights

What a fucking mess
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
Democrats tend to argue amongst themselves over which better version of legislation than the shit we have now is betterer instead of focusing on actually winning.

Thus why they lose.
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More often than not Democrats lose because they spend time thinking about how to get Republicans to buy in rather than forging ahead on the belief that they have power and good ideas.
 
gump said:
More often than not Democrats lose because they spend time thinking about how to get Republicans to buy in rather than forging ahead on the belief that they have power and good ideas.
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Sure - but what works as a good idea in a deep blue part of Queens doesn't work necessarily work 40 minutes away in a purple suburb, and it sure as hell doesn't work 2 hours away in more rural areas.

It's this lack of understanding that it's okay to be flexible on your best case scenario in order to simply win and crush the opponent that I'm referring to.
 
It’s frustrating to see the talk of

This wouldn’t have happened if the DNC didn’t screw things up (both 2016 and 2020). The idea that one person will be a savior. That somehow m4all would just magically appear.

I feel like a Clinton presidency in 2016 would have set the path towards progressive ideas being a reality by 2024. This assumes she holds on in 2020.

By 2024 you could run a AOC, or anyone who isn’t over 65 years old.

The 2020 election now draws a parallel with mask wearing. This election isn’t about you liking Joe, or agreeing with every policy he’s put forth.

This election is about protecting the most vulnerable in this society. About keeping some form of democracy alive for one more day.

I honestly don’t know if we can do it.
 
Irvine511 said:
I do think the D’s are going to be much more motivated by this.
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Moonlit_Angel said:
This is the one thing that's helping me feel a little better about all of this. There's definitely a fire being lit under a lot of people, for sure, and I really hope that does translate into some significant action/voter turnout/etc, and actually leads to some positive outcomes besides.
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The fund raising for the Senate Dems went through the roof last night!

I've given already, but I will again, and in Oct , and last minute push Nov 1
Going to whether NAACP Legal Defense Fund is national or State oriented for funding. I'll give something either way.
 
At this point, we have to take our chances. If a Trump nominee is confirmed and then the Dems win the Presidency and Senate, they need to expand the Court by two to account for the con artist that is McConnell. There won’t be any turning back.
 
BEAL said:
What happens when Trump challenges the results and it goes before this court. Assuming it the seat doesn’t get filled it’s a 5-3 vote
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That's why he will have a nominee announced Monday, so its a 6-3 advantage and he still wins the challenge 5-4 if Roberts swings the other way like he has a couple times recently.
 
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