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Old 11-04-2020, 02:10 AM   #201
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I'm wondering if we should've talked a lot about the high voter turnout leading up to today, too. I think that helped motivate the Republicans to come out today as well.



Like I said earlier, I know that the mail-in debacle has affected counting a lot of the ballots that are already in. But since the turnout was so high prior to today, would that have managed to overcome some of that? 'Cause it just seems so weird that the turnout was so high (to the point of record breaking), which normally benefits Democrats, and yet the race is so close.


Ok so not to be the “I told you so” guy but I literally made this case as well about voter turnout and about the best possible place to be in the polls is consistently behind in a tight race. That psychologically has to benefit Trump’s ability to motivate voters to get out and vote.
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Boy... GA is really starting to be the ray of hope. If Fulton alone holds its breakdown of 72% Biden (possible, since the remaining vote is absentee supposedly) then the margin is 8000 votes.

With well over 100,000 votes in other blue neighboring counties with similar blue tilts.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:22 AM   #203
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Sanders had one path. WI, MI, and PA. That's it. I fully believe he would have won those three states. And I would love to see a Sanders presidency. But I don't think there would have been ANY discussion of NC, GA, FL or TX. And at some point, Dems need to expand the map, as the blue wall gets weaker. FL has become a red state. Warren, Pete, Booker, Castro, Amy K. - none of them would have fared better. The only one, oddly, that I think would maaaayyyybbeeee had some sort of a chance was Steyer???
But i dunno.
Anyway, I think Biden and Sanders were the only ones with a real shot.
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Florida is a Trump state. It’s still as fair weather as can be.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:28 AM   #205
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Boy... GA is really starting to be the ray of hope. If Fulton alone holds its breakdown of 72% Biden (possible, since the remaining vote is absentee supposedly) then the margin is 8000 votes.

With well over 100,000 votes in other blue neighboring counties with similar blue tilts.
Agreed. I think if Biden can pull GA and AZ, this is a successful win. I don't like that WI is gonna be so close. Just makes me sick that I am in a country that can give this amount of support to a true sociopath. Even if Biden wins, I'm as sick to my stomach as I was in 2016.
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Trump is speaking in his lady voice tonight.
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This may send me to bed.

Imagine a Republican bragging about winning Texas.

And now Trump is saying that he won. He mentioned SCOTUS. We are in the nightmare scenario.
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Oh my god this lunatic really just said he’s going to try to get votes to stop counting immediately.
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There's the tell. Every time he says "frankly", he's lying.

"Frankly we won the election"
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And there it is. He’s going to use the Supreme Court to try to stop states from counting votes.

EC should award no votes from those states if that happens.
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Oh, lord, here we go...
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Oh my god this lunatic really just said he’s going to try to get votes to stop counting immediately.


Except in Arizona.
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Democracy is in a truly terrible place right now the world over. I am not sure any election has been over policy but more broad public mood/feeling from Brexit to Trump and Bolsonaro, Erdogan on and on. We are in a very reactionary age.
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Democracy is in a truly terrible place right now the world over. I am not sure any election has been over policy but more broad public mood/feeling from Brexit to Trump and Bolsonaro, Erdogan on and on. We are in a very reactionary age.


Yes. This goes far beyond the US. It’s scary everywhere.
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Even Ernst projected winner in Iowa now.
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Even Ernst projected winner in Iowa now.
Yeah, Iowa in general was called a while ago . So much red here, it's depressing as hell.
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Oh my god this lunatic really just said he’s going to try to get votes to stop counting immediately.
Amazing shit. 2 million votes at LEAST, still to count. And these are the votes that are 2 to 1 Biden.
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Amazing shit. 2 million votes at LEAST, still to count. And these are the votes that are 2 to 1 Biden.


It’s funny because the law was clear well before the election but surely you only challenge it when it’s a problem for you lol
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i can't see any way joe biden ends up as president after all the bullshit that's about to happen.

not with a bang but a whimper
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The protests this summer were just a warm up.

AZ called by the AP.

How the fuck are things looking in MI, PA, and WI?
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