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Old 06-08-2020, 06:18 PM   #321
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“Abolish the police” does not mean there will be no policing. It just means that you start afresh with a new institution rather that trying to fix a corrupt one with powerful unions. Look at what Camden, NJ did. Move towards community policing. It’s a global best practice.
Ah I was going to mention this because NPR.org just had an interview with ?a former top official in the Camden police describing the changes and postive results. A hopeful look.
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Old 06-08-2020, 06:23 PM   #322
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, and yes, I do believe if it comes down to it and he's already lost the election that he would resign if he had a promise of a person from Pence.
Would that person be Mother?
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I've been a big proponent of Abrams. I still think she would be great but I'm guessing that Demings and Harris are still very strong possibilities. Demings with her background as chief of police, and Harris just for her skills and built in base of support she had from the primaries. Demings stands out again because she's from FL. Abrams obviously also has strength being from GA.

My money is that Abrams and Demings are top two right now.



What makes you think that Abrams is the best one?

I personally think Abrams is a better, more powerful speaker, is seen as more progressive whether true or not, and of course will be a force in fighting voter suppression.

Just not sure if they want someone with more experience at this point.
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Nice payout on Abrams.
Vegas casinos weren't built on 16-1 underdogs cashing though.
It's going to be Harris.
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Meh.. offshore
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Fucking dumb that Booker is on there. And Obama. Is Obama even eligible? I think technically but maybe not. Anyways, they’re not females, and not even those odds are realistic versus Biden’s word.

Also, if it’s Kamala, the “Kamala is a cop” thing will pretty much destroy her value to the black community in the current climate. Hard pass. Would be a fucking stupid mistake.
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Anyone want +600 on no Mike Pence?
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Anyone want +600 on no Mike Pence?


Would it count if Mike Pence was running for President? Still would be a Vice President on the ticket.
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Kamala may be a cop, but at least she knows what defunding the police refers to, unlike Biden.



This is actually a really nuanced and knowledgeable summary of what the movement is about, though she was too noncommittal for my tastes. She's in a precarious position and likely doesn't want to show her hand at the moment.
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Maybe Biden's smart enough to know that most of the people who will be voting aren't smart enough to know what defunding the police means.
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maybe biden's smart enough to know that most of the people who will be voting aren't smart enough to know what defunding the police means.
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Maybe Biden's smart enough to know that most of the people who will be voting aren't smart enough to know what defunding the police means.


I hope so.
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Bunker Bitch won't be happy with Billy Barr

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgdhp
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That's no problem for Trump.

The Secret Service "recommended" that he go to the bunker...for the inspection. He builds all the best and strongest buildings. He knows more about bunker construction than anyone else out there. Nobody else could do an inspection like him.
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I think the best answer is for him to say -

I stand by our law enforcement officers. There are hundreds of thousands of dedicated, outstanding officers that protect and serve their communities as they are sworn to do. BUT, as we have seen, there are also a percentage of officers who should not be wearing the badge, and are breaking the oath they took.

I am proposing a detailed plan that increases federal grants to police agencies that meet or exceed the new guidelines on hiring, training, ongoing education and training, psychological testing, background checks and disciplinary action. For the agencies that don't meet the guidelines, I will not put forward federal money to an agency that may harm the public they are supposed to serve.
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Biden kinda listened to what i said!

https://mobile.twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1270124376437018624
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Also, if it’s Kamala, the “Kamala is a cop” thing will pretty much destroy her value to the black community in the current climate. Hard pass. Would be a fucking stupid mistake.


it will only continue to destroy her already destroyed reputation amongst white Jacobin Millennials.
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it will only continue to destroy her already destroyed reputation amongst white Jacobin Millennials.


Dude how blind are you? Do you genuinely think Black Lives Matter, the single most prominent movement on the ground right now, is not filled with a myriad of not just your “white jacobin millennials”?

Do you genuinely think that the black community will respond positively to Kamala Harris, just because she’s black? Movements like BLM are literally comprised of the same people calling out “Kamala is a cop”. The supposed “white jacobin millennials” you’re describing are the ones making fucking change in the streets right now. And they’re not “white jacobin millennials.”

Like, I can’t believe you had the nerve to say literally any of that. Holy shit.
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