Jerry Dunk
Refugee
Weird that Asian people are saying it's a racist ad, and everyone in here says it's not. Guess I was wrong!
Weird that Asian people are saying it's a racist ad, and everyone in here says it's not. Guess I was wrong!
Well I just watched the ad for the first time. Two main thoughts:
1) it’s not racist but it is classically irresponsible negative political ads (that are notoriously effective). It scapegoats China for sure, and calls out a lot of things Trump did do wrong, but also kinda just attacks him for things that he didn’t do wrong (like I’m calling BS, 40,000 travelers from China would’ve been let in under Biden too). Lots of misinformation in that ad. Lots of misdirection. At the expense of China.
2) what dumbass on the Biden team thought ending THAT ad with “all the negative adds in the world can’t change the truth” was wise? Seriously lol
I wish the ad had added the word “government” after “Chinese.”
And that’s about it. It’s an effective piece of political advertising.
But, you guys, I think the point is that the real racists are the democrats. Time to get off the plantation.
Fun seeing the Bernie and Trump supporters combine forces and convulse in horror at this incredibly racist ad!
And not really seeing the difference between saying Chinese and Chinese government. While the ad says, Trump rolled over for the Chinese, It's showing a picture of him with Xi and then the next sentence is about him praising Xi. There is no doubt that it is talking about the government and its actions and praise from Trump.
Was Trump ever out praising the Chinese people? No.
If this was a TV ad in Canada for Prime Minister and it was talking about how the Justin Trudeau praised Trump and rolled over the Americans, while showing video of him shaking hands with Trump - would that be somehow disparaging the people of America??
Again, No
So if you are twisting yourself in pretzels trying to find some way to hate on Biden. Just know this is how it started with Hillary. So we'll know who to thank again this time around.
So if you are twisting yourself in pretzels trying to find some way to hate on Biden.
Which Republicans are saying the ad is racist?
Also, we don't have to try very hard to dislike Biden and think he's an awful, awful choice for President.
Support more progressive candidates in the cities and urban centers that you know will stay blue no matter what in order to push the party as a whole further left; while understanding that a moderate has a better chance in certain statewide elections and purplish or light red districts. Then maybe some good can come out or the giant pile of shit that is the year 2020.
You mean like what you did for months on end with Sanders?
No comment on 1 and 2, but item #3 has my vote.
Honestly, you could even put any republican with a pulse up against Trump and I would vote for them.
ummmm... no. I never threw away common sense to try and discredit Sanders. Please go ahead and share some if you find any. Sanders supporters? Sure i bitch about them all the time, but again, I wasn't doing any acrobatics to criticize them, they are quite capable of fully showing how they operate (and yes, i'm speaking about a portion of his supporters, obviously not all)
There's an understandable back and forth about the faults, real or perceived, of various candidates that you would expect in the primaries.
Once you have a presumptive nominee you would certainly hope that the tearing down would no longer come from within the party.
Certainly this doesn't mean that people can't voice concerns, but the continued attempts to tear down the Democratic nominee by those to the left is disappointing, although not entirely unexpected.
But sure - let's continue to take pot shots at the Democratic nominee from within our own walls. Let's create controversies, both real and imagined, that play right into the hands of the opponent. Maybe if just enough doubt is sowed those who so desire can point back and say "look, we told you he was bad" while ignoring their own culpability in the final result.
Or maybe, just maybe, we can all face a little reality and realize just how god damned important it is to push this imperfect vessel over the finish line in November - and save our energy for coming together to energize the base and nominate candidates in purple districts up and down the ballot - whether they match our perfect ideals or not - so that the overall landscape of the country's leadership, both in Congress and on the state and local level, tilts back blue. Because this is the only way any sort of progressive agenda is actually ever going to get done.
Support more progressive candidates in the cities and urban centers that you know will stay blue no matter what in order to push the party as a whole further left; while understanding that a moderate has a better chance in certain statewide elections and purplish or light red districts. Then maybe some good can come out or the giant pile of shit that is the year 2020.
But sure - let's continue to take pot shots at the Democratic nominee from within our own walls. Let's create controversies, both real and imagined, that play right into the hands of the opponent. Maybe if just enough doubt is sowed those who so desire can point back and say "look, we told you he was bad" while ignoring their own culpability in the final result.
Sure, if you want to speak in tautologies about how you're a common sense guy and therefore any critique you had was common sense, then there's no argument to be had.
Sure, if you want to speak in tautologies about how you're a common sense guy and therefore any critique you had was common sense, then there's no argument to be had.