My point stands. I don’t know how you can say half of things you said in your prior post. The fact that you yourself are a victim makes it even more shocking. you literally have repeatedly played the “why didn’t she come forward sooner???” card repeatedly, and you’ve suggested that a potential victim “always had a voice.” As though we haven’t proven that folks like Harvey Weinstein and those with power could silence any accusations.
I’m not “missing the overall point.” You’re clouded by a political bias. There’s plenty of reason to believe she’s a liar, and there’s plenty of believable reasons why she would’ve done everything she’s said at this point. You repeatedly keep tiptoeing on the “why didn’t she do it then???” point.
Bottom line: if this is conspiracy to damage Joe Biden, it’s well crafted. And yes it’s practically the same thing as Brett Kavanaugh. So you can either think that Ford... with no real evidence... maybe made her story up because it was the perfect time to do so? Maybe! Maybe not. You’re attempting to unequivocally say that because she didn’t gather sufficient evidence when she might’ve had the opportunity, and because she didn’t try hard enough decades ago to make it very clear, that Reade is obviously a liar.
Have you ever stopped to think that the angle your news source has is biased? And you like that bias? Like, all news sources. I read the article about her “not including the words sexual assault.” God forbid someone who was sexually assaulted didn’t use the words two dozen years ago because they were afraid. You do realize that it’s a confusing yet common emotional response to say “well he’s a good guy even though he did that to me. I don’t want to ruin his career...”
Anyways, you can’t say without reasonable doubt that she’s lying. You can’t. And the fact that you’re aggressively doing so is shocking.
I think you have a clear issue reading comprehension. Never have I said I don't believe her because of the amount of time it took her to come forward. NEVER. In fact I've said the opposite MANY times. But sure, your completely opposite accusation gives you a lot of credibility here.
As I explained at length in my post. MeToo has given people a space to feel more comfortable coming forward, especially against those in power. I also never said "always had a voice" that you put in quotes. And then you completely ignore my purpose of saying that she did have options that she COULD have taken. Options that she says she considered. But she didn't, and that's ok. But don't come out and say later that you were actively "silenced" A term she uses over and over again.
I was never silenced in my 25 years, I chose not to come forward until I felt I was at a place that I couldn't keep it to myself any longer.
And this brings up another important point. The moment that you tell someone for the first time, is as etched in your brain as hard as the act itself. You remember every detail. Reade has from all accounts said she told various people, over 75% of those people say she didn't... In fact in all the digging through this, I don't think I've ever heard her say who she first told... Which again in my experience with other survivors is very strange.
Guess what else I never did. I never praised my abuser. I never said i told people about it that I hadn't, I never told multiple, vastly different stories, I also never sat with my truth and then on a public forum say how "timeing is everything... Tic Toc..." again and again. And if you think that its normal that someone does that, you are wrong. If you think someone without an ulterior motive does that, you're wrong.
And yes, my experience is vastly different, and with this involving a Senator, it brings up a whole different set of dynamics. But I don't think you understand that having been through it and having seen and heard dozens of others stories in person, Reade's history and actions run very contradictory than anything I've experienced.
People want to compare this to Ford. but it's not the same at all. Ford had one story. She never wavered. She didn't make claims that evidence existed that didn't. She never talked with people from her past to coerce or change their story (at least that I know of) She didn't have a history of lying or of having extreme political bias.
You seem to want to take all claims completely out of context and make them equal. They are not. You keep talking about "reasonable doubt" Well I would say that after seeing a woman with Ford's story, going under oath and seeming extremely credible, and Kavanaugh going up there and screaming and crying, I found her story to more believeable. Is there a possibility that Ford wasn't truthful. Possible but not probable IMO.
Then you have the complete history of Reade coming out for you to read and take into consideration. I take it you haven't read through the article that Headache posted, but if you did, I don't see how you can look at that history, put it up next to Biden, who has never had one other accusation of sexual assault in 50 years, who is calling for any and all documents to be released of ANY complaint filed - And not say that there is reasonable doubt.
I think you may need to check your political bias here.
Of course the articles are going to has a bias slant to them. No question. The commentary in the articles yes. But the FACTS that are presented don't change. There are no bias in the tweets, or the articles she wrote, or the praise she gave to Biden during the very time that MeToo was taking off, the fact is that her story has changed dramatically, that is fact, not bias. The fact is that her mothers call to Larry King doesn't back up her new story, the fact is that her brother gave multiple accounts of what she said and when he was told, the fact is that she had political motive. These are facts, and if you take them as a whole, they add up to her not being very credible.
And for your statement that she thought he was a good guy and didn't want to ruin his career. This shows your complete lack or real experience with victims.
Very common that someone would say - I THOUGHT he was a good guy, what did I do to bring this about, what could I have done to stop it, etc...
But after you are raped by someone. There are many reasons people don't come forward, but none that I have ever heard are because they still hold that person in high esteem (unless possibly a family member, which is a whole different dynamic)
I think at this point we have to agree to disagree. You find her more credible than I do. I can live with that. But I still think you are taking what I'm trying to say and spinning it into some sort of victim blaming. Again, not blaming her for not coming forward earlier. Taking her history, motive and the very precise timing of both her first and second public claims, after giving a threat of a releasing a precisely timed claim over and over again, gives me very, very high doubt.
