US POLITICS XX: Stuck In a Caucus You Can't Get Out Of

[womanfish]

Not sure Bernie giving that caveat about some authoritarian regimes have good qualities is the best bet...

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I'm about 20 minutes behind. Needed to pause. Sad.

 

[womanfish]

Oh Bernie you're embarrassing yourself.

 

[DaveC]

Not sure Bernie giving that caveat about some authoritarian regimes have good qualities is the best bet...

that is not even remotely what he said, dude.

 

[DaveC]

https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1232492244109627399

 

[LuckyNumber7]

did they bus in this audience from a taping of the maury show or something?

i feel like debates used to sound a lot less like a WWE event.

This is easily the worst managed debate we’ve seen in the last two elections.

It’s an embarrassment.

 

[womanfish]

Bernie stating poll results is just sad.

 

[dazzledbylight]

agree on that Bernie

 

[womanfish]

that is not even remotely what he said, dude.

Well the fact is he DID say those things in the past. He said it again on 60 minutes 3 days ago.

Now tonight he says he doesn't support any authoritarians, but that some of them "do things that are good"

What am i missing?

 

[DaveC]

wow really showing off your knowledge of the middle east and its history there mike.

barely clearing the sarah palin bar. very presidential.

 

[DaveC]

Well the fact is he DID say those things in the past. He said it again on 60 minutes 3 days ago.

Now tonight he says he doesn't support any authoritarians, that some of them "do things that are good"

What am i missing?

"literacy programs"

that's what you're missing.

 

[womanfish]

Amy, STOP with the midwestern jokes. Not one laugh. Not one.

 

[DaveC]

klobuchar definitely knows her stuff on foreign policy and i think she should be considered for secretary of state by whoever wins.

 

[anitram]

OK, old Joe was actually funny there.

 

[womanfish]

"literacy programs"

that's what you're missing.

Don't you find it odd that he can't just say he opposes authoritarian regimes. He has to throw in that some of them "do good things". No strangeness there to you.

The guy that is absolutist about EVERYTHING, has to throw in a caveat on his opposition to authoritarians?

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Catching up...


Stupid politburo comment by Bloomberg.


Warren has overplayed her hand on her attempt to shank Bloomberg. Not nearly as effective as last time and quite obvious that she's only there to sink him.


Bernie yelling at the people booing him and blaming America is really going to play well in the general. Woof.


Joe Biden knows Obama!


Bernie, it's ok to just say you're wrong.


Great response by Pete - "the brightside of the Castro regime"


Oh, Bernie.


Amy's got a great "ehemagad" face.


Sorry Bernie - the youth aren't voting.


I think I'm caught up, and still behind again

 

[DaveC]

biden has a point about the rules being ignored but he just sounds like a broken record about it by now.

 

[womanfish]

klobuchar definitely knows her stuff on foreign policy and i think she should be considered for secretary of state by whoever wins.

Damn it, I stopped listening after "hot dish"

Good call with her. Although, can't lose a senator...

 

[deep]

someone in here posted a while back that Pete is not a likeable person, something to that effect, of the seven people tonight, if I had to say who was the most likeable, that would easily be Joe Biden

Who do you think is the most likeable person?

 

[womanfish]

OK, old Joe was actually funny there.

Yeah, started out looking bad, but the well time joke saved it.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

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Great response by Pete - "the brightside of the Castro regime"

Eww, this was not a great response at all. It was an empty “ooooh gottem!” response.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

20 minute behind guy says that's the best moment of Steyer's entire life

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Eww, this was not a great response at all. It was an empty “ooooh gottem!” response.

This is my shocked face

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Super awkward that Major Garrett tees up the Israel question with a shout out to the two Jews on the stage.

And yes, sorry. It's hard to catch up without commercials

 

[DaveC]

Don't you find it odd that he can't just say he opposes authoritarian regimes. He has to throw in that some of them "do good things". No strangeness there to you.

The guy that is absolutist about EVERYTHING, has to throw in a caveat on his opposition to authoritarians?

because the narrative that cuba was an evil authoritarian hellhole is total bullshit. people in cuba are educated and have better health care than americans do. bernie actually knows his history (unlike mike, the 70 year old man who thinks israel and palestine have been in conflict for "40 or 50 years").

the fact that people are *freaking the fuck out* that any politician could think that cuba is anything other than an evil authoritarian hellhole only proves how effective the propaganda of the 60s and 70s really was.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

because the narrative that cuba was an evil authoritarian hellhole is total bullshit. people in cuba can read and have better health care than americans do.



the fact that people are *freaking the fuck out* that any politician could think that cuba is anything other than an evil authoritarian hellhole only proves how effective the propaganda of the 60s and 70s really was.

You're not wrong.

But your point is exactly my concern. We're a dumb country. We don't do nuance. Commie bad, Murica good. This is why most of us are crazy concerned about a socialist in the general... when we get out of the people who pay attention always and into the people who pay attention once every 4 years.

 

[deep]

Warren, using religion smacks of phoniness

 

[DaveC]

"i get that i'm...kinda...level."

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

We're really going to end this thing with senior year yearbook quotes?

 

[anitram]

You're not wrong.

But your point is exactly my concern. We're a dumb country. We don't do nuance. Commie bad, Murica good. This is why most of us are crazy concerned about a socialist in the general... when we get out of the people who pay attention always and into the people who pay attention once every 4 years.

Forget nuance about the role of Cuba in geopolitics. There are literally millions of evangelical voters who believe that people walked alongside dinosaurs.