US Politics XVIII: the illegitimate partisan sham thread

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Exactly.

You don’t see the deplorables arguing in favour of open carry in Harlem...because they’d shit their pants at the mere thought of it.

You don’t realize how racist of a statement that is, and how out of touch you are. This is the definition of white liberal racism and elitism.
 
You don’t realize how racist of a statement that is, and how out of touch you are. This is the definition of white liberal racism and elitism.
you are a stupid, racist lying hypocrite. please do the world a favor and immediately go play in highway traffic.
 
It’s almost a negative.



Only in certain circles.

When a large amount of voters are undecided, and when the people who go to the polls (grown ups) are the ones who take newspapers (and not twitter snark) seriously, it may well mean something. In addition to being a modest but real talking point.
 
Oh please , virtue signal much? [emoji849]



The point is, there are over 300 million lawful gun owners in America. If they were committing crimes with their guns, you would know it.



Take the guns away from the criminals, not the law abiding citizens.



Or, reduce the availability of weapons of mass death, license, register, insure, and put age limits on guns. Limit magazine capacities. So many things we can to to make criminals vastly less deadly, which is something all law abiding gun owners should be advocating most fervently for.

I mean, mass shootings make ordinary Gun owners look like indifferent, selfish assholes. I’m sure they want to do everything they can to improve their terrible reputations.
 
Oh please , virtue signal much? [emoji849]



The point is, there are over 300 million lawful gun owners in America. If they were committing crimes with their guns, you would know it.



Take the guns away from the criminals, not the law abiding citizens.



~75 million of the ~325 million people in this country are under the age of 18. Also I’m not sure where you got your numbers but you’re cracked out if you think over 90% of Americans own a gun (and lawfully lmao). Anyways, maybe you meant 200 million, but I would still imagine that number is way too high an estimation.
 
~75 million of the ~325 million people in this country are under the age of 18. Also I’m not sure where you got your numbers but you’re cracked out if you think over 90% of Americans own a gun (and lawfully lmao). Anyways, maybe you meant 200 million, but I would still imagine that number is way too high an estimation.



Might have heard about the number of legal guns in America but didn’t take into account how many Americans may own a small arsenal.
 
Glad that he did apologize but why is his staff pulling this anyway ?

And the Dems leaving out like 95% of Trumps impeachable offenses so the focus could be only on Ukraine seems misjudged.

There is nothing stopping the house from calling Bolton, Mulvany, and Parnas to testify. Nothing to stop issuing additional articles.

What’s scary is what Trump plans to do once he’s in the clear next week.
 
It's time for the no witness, no evidence fair impeachment trial! Staring a lawyer who is closely tied to the same serial child rapist as the defendant!

Welcome to Republican Gzus' America.

Excuse you. That lawyer has been all over tv the last two days insisting that his client is not Donald Trump, but the Constitution.
 
Glad that he did apologize but why is his staff pulling this anyway ?

And the Dems leaving out like 95% of Trumps impeachable offenses so the focus could be only on Ukraine seems misjudged.

There is nothing stopping the house from calling Bolton, Mulvany, and Parnas to testify. Nothing to stop issuing additional articles.

What’s scary is what Trump plans to do once he’s in the clear next week.



Public perception of a circus stops new articles. And they cannot call Bolton or mulvaney as per executive privilege. Lev Parnas was arrested got his role in this, and while it seems like he’s come clean, much like Michael Cohen (!!!), a heel turner face to save themselves is not a credible witness in the court of public opinion. The same court that is voting on impeachment.
 
Didn't a ruling just come out striking down the Bolton/Mulvaney argument?
 
and basically what you are saying is nothing fucking matters anymore.

why even have checks and balances on the executive branch if they can just blow off laws, norms, and we worry about public perception versus right & wrong.
 
Glad that he did apologize but why is his staff pulling this anyway ?

his staff didn't "pull this".

the person who wrote the op-ed is a legal professor that has introduced bernie at some of his rallies and endorsed him, but doesn't work for him or his campaign. that bernie is being made to apologize for someone who isn't on his staff writing essentially "centrist democrat takes corporate donations while pandering to the middle and lower class" is absolute horseshit.
 
hillary clinton literally calls bernie sanders useless, unliked, and "just baloney" then doubles down to confirm when asked if she still feels that way, outright calls his supporters sexist trolls and says that he is actively encouraging that behaviour, and then implies she will not support him in any way if he wins the nomination (even though he did 39 campaign events for her after she was nominated). and L-O-FUCKING-L at a clinton calling someone else a "career politician" as a slur.

but yeah the thing we should all be mad about is that some hippie law professor who likes bernie implied in an opinion article that rich-guy joe biden probably doesn't really care about lower class voters.

and all we're going to hear about for at least the next six-plus months is how it's bernie who's the one being divisive in the democratic party.

give me a fucking break :rolleyes:
 
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hillary clinton literally calls bernie sanders useless, unliked, and "just baloney" then doubles down to confirm when asked if she still feels that way, outright calls his supporters sexist trolls and says that he is actively encouraging that behaviour, and then implies she will not support him in any way if he wins the nomination (even though he did 39 campaign events for her after she was nominated). and L-O-FUCKING-L at a clinton calling someone else a "career politician" as a slur.


i haven't had a chance to read up on this yet, but if your characterization is accurate, then this is a completely fucking stupid and petty thing for her to say. she's understandably and justifiably upset about 2016, but this is eye-on-the-ball time, and the party needs total unity behind whomever is the nominee. this is not the time for karmic paybacks.
 
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