MrsSpringsteen
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I want to hear what this inminent attack threat was, if we ever get to hear that. My thoughts can't help but wander to an impeachment wag the dog at the start of the election year.
US Politics XVIII: the illegitimate partisan sham thread
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Moonlit_Angel
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Which makes his actions even more hideous, if that's the case.
But hey, sure am glad we didn't elect that warmongering Hillary Clinton. Yep.
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DaveC
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Moonlit_Angel
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Hey, Trump voters out there? You guys think Trump's so great and his actions are so awesome and you were so happy to vote for him, tell ya what. How about, if we do go to war with Iran, you all go sign up and fight in that war, then.
She’s been fucking right on with everything.
How about those who pretty much laughed him off ?
https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/1213122251731562496?s=21
And there’s this coming out, which isn’t a surprise
https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1213103642988793858?s=21
Throw in this
https://twitter.com/scout_finch/status/1213110960099135488?s=21
And let’s not forget a certain Supreme Court Justice’s son worked for Deutsche bank
https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1213103642988793858?s=21
Throw in this
https://twitter.com/scout_finch/status/1213110960099135488?s=21
And let’s not forget a certain Supreme Court Justice’s son worked for Deutsche bank
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DaveC
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the only "imminent attack" was that the media was starting to lean heavily into the unredacted email leak yesterday. that dominated the news cycle for about six hours max - then this murder just so happens to conveniently take place and instantly it's wall-to-wall coverage from baghdad on every channel, and the emails drift off into the forgotten mist.
He said that people were dancing on the streets..."in certain parts" of Iraq.
Guys, even though we said we wanted trump because he was going to bring back jobs and end endless was and make America great again, like, dude was a terrorist. Murica fuck yea
The US has basically said any form of attack against it will validate the use of nukes.
Cyber attacks being the latest (a few years ago) modified to allow the retaliation using nukes.
Iran is a big player in the cyber world.
And at what point will congress wake up and realize Trump isn’t going to follow the rules. He’s sending more troops overseas today yet democrats are on twitter saying he needs to follow the rules!!!
There aren’t any. This is a dictatorship until he is removed.
Cyber attacks being the latest (a few years ago) modified to allow the retaliation using nukes.
Iran is a big player in the cyber world.
And at what point will congress wake up and realize Trump isn’t going to follow the rules. He’s sending more troops overseas today yet democrats are on twitter saying he needs to follow the rules!!!
There aren’t any. This is a dictatorship until he is removed.
MrsSpringsteen
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Well Trump's really good at turning allies into "enemies" and enemies into allies.
dazzledbylight
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dazzledbylight
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Wait... I missed this...
goes to look up
OK
from Raw Story
jeeeeez
i think i just barely caught this, but bc i'm often listening to radio while doing stuff - sometimes I need at least one repetition to "get" it.
hopefully i will post Free Call Congress phone #s over this weekend. Been using them for years
We can point out this new info, along with the new whistleblower.
Somehow he's got to be out!
I'll end with a quote from a shiney metal guy: "This is madness!!! ".
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Iran pulling out of any remaining portions of the nuclear deal - check
Iran restarting uranium enrichment - check
Iraq unanimously voting to oust US Troops from the country - check
Military actions against ISIS suspended - check
Good job assholes
Iran restarting uranium enrichment - check
Iraq unanimously voting to oust US Troops from the country - check
Military actions against ISIS suspended - check
Good job assholes
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=21
We’re only five days into 2020
This is fucking madness.
https://twitter.com/teri_kanefield/status/1213927021002182656?s=21
We’re only five days into 2020
This is fucking madness.
https://twitter.com/teri_kanefield/status/1213927021002182656?s=21
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Have they rolled out the Mission Accomplished banner out of storage yet?
Oh no, because that Iran deal was so solid to begin with, and the leadership has been such fine upstanding citizens in keeping their agreements, not promoting terrorism, Death to America, attacking our embassy, etc.
Seriously????
They did all of that AFTER trump broke the treaty.
None of this needed to happen. None. Iran was following the rules that the international community agreed to.
All of this is self inflicted and because of jealousy of a black man.
None of this needed to happen. None. Iran was following the rules that the international community agreed to.
All of this is self inflicted and because of jealousy of a black man.
MrsSpringsteen
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You just can't make this stuff up..
Trump repeatedly claimed in 2011 and 2012 that Obama would start a war with Iran to win reelection
CNN Digital Expansion 2018
By Andrew Kaczynski
Updated 9:15 AM ET, Sat January 4, 2020
(CNN)In media appearances prior to the 2012 election, Donald Trump repeatedly predicted that then-President Barack Obama would start a war with Iran in order to win reelection.
A CNN KFile review found Trump made the claims throughout 2011 and 2012 in radio and television appearances as well as in a since-deleted YouTube blog and on Twitter.
Now president and facing his own reelection battle later this year, Trump ordered a drone strike on Thursday that killed Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Quds Force, in a major escalation between Iran and the US. Trump celebrated the news on Thursday night by tweeting a picture of an American flag, adding on Friday, "Iran never won a war, but never lost a negotiation!"
On Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Fox & Friends the US does not "seek war with Iran" but that the US would not "stand by and watch the Iranians escalate and continue to put American lives at risk without responding in a way that disrupts, defends, deters and creates an opportunity to deescalate the situation."
Trump has consistently criticized Obama's Iran policy -- the chief accomplishment of which was an internationally negotiated deal reached in 2015 that lifted sanctions in exchange for Iran ratcheting down its nuclear weapons program. The Trump administration reimposed all sanctions in 2018
But before that deal, Trump routinely asserted that Obama would force a confrontation to boost his domestic prospects.
"Our President will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate," Trump said in a November 2011 video on his YouTube channel.
"He's weak, and he's ineffective," Trump added. "So I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election, because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected."
Speaking on the Sean Hannity radio program in January 2012, Trump predicted "some kind of a war" with Iran prior to that year's election.
"I say that he starts a war in Iran before the election, which will make it very hard for the Republican to win," Trump said. "He'll start a war, you know, lives will be wasted for no reason."
"I think it's going to happen sometime prior to the election. There'll be some kind of a war started," added Trump.
On Fox News' On the Record in February 2012 Trump said it was "pretty sad" to say, but said Obama would go to war nonetheless.
"I've said before, I think Obama will go to war with Iran because I think he views it as good politically," Trump said. "That's pretty sad and it's a pretty sad thing to have to say, but I think he will absolutely go to war with Iran. I think he views that as a positive from a political standpoint, and I think he's just waiting for the right moment."
Speaking on the Laura Ingraham Show in April 2012, Trump repeated his prediction. "I happen to think that the president is going to start a war with Iran," said Trump. "I think it'll be a short term popular thing to do. And I think he's going to do that for political reasons."
Trump made the same prediction on Fox News' Justice with Judge Jeanine that month.
"In my opinion, Obama will start a war," Trump said. "For about three weeks it'd be very popular about, by the way, six months later he'll be very unpopular, but by that time it's too late."
"Well, I think that he would do it," Trump continued. "I do believe he will do it -- whether he does it under the guise of Israel or not -- but I do believe he would do it. I've been making that prediction. Let's see what happens. Many of my predictions, as you know better than anybody have come true.
Trump has consistently criticized Obama's Iran policy -- the chief accomplishment of which was an internationally negotiated deal reached in 2015 that lifted sanctions in exchange for Iran ratcheting down its nuclear weapons program. The Trump administration reimposed all sanctions in 2018.
But before that deal, Trump routinely asserted that Obama would force a confrontation to boost his domestic prospects.
"Our President will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate," Trump said in a November 2011 video on his YouTube channel.
"He's weak, and he's ineffective," Trump added. "So I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election, because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected."
Speaking on the Sean Hannity radio program in January 2012, Trump predicted "some kind of a war" with Iran prior to that year's election.
"I say that he starts a war in Iran before the election, which will make it very hard for the Republican to win," Trump said. "He'll start a war, you know, lives will be wasted for no reason."
"I think it's going to happen sometime prior to the election. There'll be some kind of a war started," added Trump.
On Fox News' On the Record in February 2012 Trump said it was "pretty sad" to say, but said Obama would go to war nonetheless.
"I've said before, I think Obama will go to war with Iran because I think he views it as good politically," Trump said. "That's pretty sad and it's a pretty sad thing to have to say, but I think he will absolutely go to war with Iran. I think he views that as a positive from a political standpoint, and I think he's just waiting for the right moment."
Speaking on the Laura Ingraham Show in April 2012, Trump repeated his prediction. "I happen to think that the president is going to start a war with Iran," said Trump. "I think it'll be a short term popular thing to do. And I think he's going to do that for political reasons."
Trump made the same prediction on Fox News' Justice with Judge Jeanine that month.
"In my opinion, Obama will start a war," Trump said. "For about three weeks it'd be very popular about, by the way, six months later he'll be very unpopular, but by that time it's too late."
"Well, I think that he would do it," Trump continued. "I do believe he will do it -- whether he does it under the guise of Israel or not -- but I do believe he would do it. I've been making that prediction. Let's see what happens. Many of my predictions, as you know better than anybody have come true."
Trump repeatedly claimed in 2011 and 2012 that Obama would start a war with Iran to win reelection
CNN Digital Expansion 2018
By Andrew Kaczynski
Updated 9:15 AM ET, Sat January 4, 2020
(CNN)In media appearances prior to the 2012 election, Donald Trump repeatedly predicted that then-President Barack Obama would start a war with Iran in order to win reelection.
A CNN KFile review found Trump made the claims throughout 2011 and 2012 in radio and television appearances as well as in a since-deleted YouTube blog and on Twitter.
Now president and facing his own reelection battle later this year, Trump ordered a drone strike on Thursday that killed Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Quds Force, in a major escalation between Iran and the US. Trump celebrated the news on Thursday night by tweeting a picture of an American flag, adding on Friday, "Iran never won a war, but never lost a negotiation!"
On Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Fox & Friends the US does not "seek war with Iran" but that the US would not "stand by and watch the Iranians escalate and continue to put American lives at risk without responding in a way that disrupts, defends, deters and creates an opportunity to deescalate the situation."
Trump has consistently criticized Obama's Iran policy -- the chief accomplishment of which was an internationally negotiated deal reached in 2015 that lifted sanctions in exchange for Iran ratcheting down its nuclear weapons program. The Trump administration reimposed all sanctions in 2018
But before that deal, Trump routinely asserted that Obama would force a confrontation to boost his domestic prospects.
"Our President will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate," Trump said in a November 2011 video on his YouTube channel.
"He's weak, and he's ineffective," Trump added. "So I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election, because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected."
Speaking on the Sean Hannity radio program in January 2012, Trump predicted "some kind of a war" with Iran prior to that year's election.
"I say that he starts a war in Iran before the election, which will make it very hard for the Republican to win," Trump said. "He'll start a war, you know, lives will be wasted for no reason."
"I think it's going to happen sometime prior to the election. There'll be some kind of a war started," added Trump.
On Fox News' On the Record in February 2012 Trump said it was "pretty sad" to say, but said Obama would go to war nonetheless.
"I've said before, I think Obama will go to war with Iran because I think he views it as good politically," Trump said. "That's pretty sad and it's a pretty sad thing to have to say, but I think he will absolutely go to war with Iran. I think he views that as a positive from a political standpoint, and I think he's just waiting for the right moment."
Speaking on the Laura Ingraham Show in April 2012, Trump repeated his prediction. "I happen to think that the president is going to start a war with Iran," said Trump. "I think it'll be a short term popular thing to do. And I think he's going to do that for political reasons."
Trump made the same prediction on Fox News' Justice with Judge Jeanine that month.
"In my opinion, Obama will start a war," Trump said. "For about three weeks it'd be very popular about, by the way, six months later he'll be very unpopular, but by that time it's too late."
"Well, I think that he would do it," Trump continued. "I do believe he will do it -- whether he does it under the guise of Israel or not -- but I do believe he would do it. I've been making that prediction. Let's see what happens. Many of my predictions, as you know better than anybody have come true.
Trump has consistently criticized Obama's Iran policy -- the chief accomplishment of which was an internationally negotiated deal reached in 2015 that lifted sanctions in exchange for Iran ratcheting down its nuclear weapons program. The Trump administration reimposed all sanctions in 2018.
But before that deal, Trump routinely asserted that Obama would force a confrontation to boost his domestic prospects.
"Our President will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate," Trump said in a November 2011 video on his YouTube channel.
"He's weak, and he's ineffective," Trump added. "So I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election, because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected."
Speaking on the Sean Hannity radio program in January 2012, Trump predicted "some kind of a war" with Iran prior to that year's election.
"I say that he starts a war in Iran before the election, which will make it very hard for the Republican to win," Trump said. "He'll start a war, you know, lives will be wasted for no reason."
"I think it's going to happen sometime prior to the election. There'll be some kind of a war started," added Trump.
On Fox News' On the Record in February 2012 Trump said it was "pretty sad" to say, but said Obama would go to war nonetheless.
"I've said before, I think Obama will go to war with Iran because I think he views it as good politically," Trump said. "That's pretty sad and it's a pretty sad thing to have to say, but I think he will absolutely go to war with Iran. I think he views that as a positive from a political standpoint, and I think he's just waiting for the right moment."
Speaking on the Laura Ingraham Show in April 2012, Trump repeated his prediction. "I happen to think that the president is going to start a war with Iran," said Trump. "I think it'll be a short term popular thing to do. And I think he's going to do that for political reasons."
Trump made the same prediction on Fox News' Justice with Judge Jeanine that month.
"In my opinion, Obama will start a war," Trump said. "For about three weeks it'd be very popular about, by the way, six months later he'll be very unpopular, but by that time it's too late."
"Well, I think that he would do it," Trump continued. "I do believe he will do it -- whether he does it under the guise of Israel or not -- but I do believe he would do it. I've been making that prediction. Let's see what happens. Many of my predictions, as you know better than anybody have come true."
Moonlit_Angel
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Yeah, I saw people bringing up all his old tweets on the Obama/Iran topic yesterday. So much projection in his tweet history, it's amazing.
Exactly. That and a desperate attempt to distract people from all the investigations he's been under these past couple years as well as his looming impeachment trial.
And it's weird to me that he's so worried about that trial, given the Republicans have made it abundantly clear they're going to do his bidding and he's not likely to be convicted and removed.
Exactly. That and a desperate attempt to distract people from all the investigations he's been under these past couple years as well as his looming impeachment trial.
And it's weird to me that he's so worried about that trial, given the Republicans have made it abundantly clear they're going to do his bidding and he's not likely to be convicted and removed.
The truth is going to come out eventually
The GOP can have a sham trial and then pay the price later when shit leaks out proving they were dishonest (and just in time for the elections, assuming those happen)
Or they can get 4 senators to step up and have the truth come out now, putting them in another choice of publicly supporting a criminal or having to make the decision to remove and deal with his mental base
The GOP can have a sham trial and then pay the price later when shit leaks out proving they were dishonest (and just in time for the elections, assuming those happen)
Or they can get 4 senators to step up and have the truth come out now, putting them in another choice of publicly supporting a criminal or having to make the decision to remove and deal with his mental base
dabiggestu2fan
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News flash, Iran was actually complying with the deal until
Dumbfuck trump tore it all up. We wouldn’t be in this mess right now if it weren’t for trump and his idiotic decisions.
LuckyNumber7
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If a smart USA wanted to take out a top Iranian general in Iraq, they would have backed an attack on his convoy from Sunni Iraqis.
Utilizing american force and American weaponry to attack a military leader of a sovereign nation is, by all measures, an act of war. Do you prefer war with Iran? I do not.
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