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Old 01-19-2020, 01:45 AM   #401
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https://twitter.com/SpaceForceDoD/st...964464650?s=19

Ready to hide amongst all those space trees


He’s been rebranding cheap ties, steaks, and vodka most of his career, why would we expect him to treat an entire new branch of the military any differently?
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Old 01-19-2020, 02:36 AM   #402
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Anyone who is willing to “stay home if _____” is on the ticket with this current field of candidates is fucking strange. None of them are that off-putting.
I didn't ask who he's voting for... but if I were able to gamble on it, I bet ya I'd win.
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He’s been rebranding cheap ties, steaks, and vodka most of his career, why would we expect him to treat an entire new branch of the military any differently?
it's not really a new branch of the military, it's basically just a different name for the air force space command. dipshit donnie is just doing this so that he and the dumb asses who still support him can pretend in an election year like he created some cool futuristic new military thing.
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:27 AM   #404
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The National Archives censorship. I assume this is just like everything else, a testing the waters.

Apologize after the outrage. Do it again and it’ll Have less impact
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One quick thing before i catch up.

Anyone who is interested in the broad and nuanced differences in how women and men are perceived and treated regarding lying, lies - highlighting Warren and Sanders from this past debate should listen to this weeks On The Media radio broadcast/podcast.
Very insightful.

https://www.wnyc.org/otm-podcast
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I think the point that is coming up here, and one which many of us males are maybe not sensitive enough to, is that this is indeed a he said/she said issue. But instead of trying to diffuse this by saying something like 'I did not say that, but if Warren got that impression then I'm sorry it was perceived that way' Sanders doubled down on it. And thus basically called Warren a liar. And this comes back to what someone mentioned earlier about 'believe women' that is coming up more and more. They have been put down as being wrong and liars often before. So if an old white man again says to a woman, "You're a liar" then this resonates with a large part of the people.
And if hardcore male supporters of Sanders are then using this to trashtalk Warren even more, thus confirming to women that men still want to put them down as liars, then it does not paint him and his followers in a pretty view.
Thank you.
This was covered in the above mentioned broadcast, podcast.
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I did hear that Warren told people soon after what ever happened, happened. So that counts for something.
I also believe she could have misheard. She could have heard the beginning of something depending on how Bernie phrased that may have sounded like it was heading in a full negative direction vs something like a caveat and she then couldn't "hear" the rest properly. anitram pointed this out early on.

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I don't know if it's so much that people don't care as it is that it seems like nothing we do to try and call out and fight any of the horrific shit spewing from this administration seems to actually achieve anything. That, and the amount of crap that happens is NEVERENDING-like, every single fucking day there's something new and outrageous happening or being revealed, to the point where it gets so exhausting and hard for a lot of people to keep up.

As a result, people are feeling beaten down and overwhelmed and thinking, "What's the point?" I agree that that's not the attitude that we should be having right now, mind, just that that seems to be the mindset taking hold. Trump and the GOP are playing so dirty and so underhanded, to where it seems like there's nothing that can be done to take them down. Even when people do try and fight fire with fire, it seems to backfire on them. And we can't even be guaranteed that voting in November will make a difference, because the GOP is going to try and fuck with our elections yet again.

But yeah, I look at the protests happening in places like Hong Kong, and India, and so on, and I think our country desperately needs to take a page from those protests and do something significant already. We need to mobilize in a huge way that gets everyone's attention and makes Trump and the GOP have to finally answer and pay at long last for everything they're putting this country through.
Hooo boy, yeah, moonlit.
A great line from the lad SW movie #9 -paraphrasing- "They want you to feel alone. That there is no hope. But we are not alone".

I think you feel it more intensely because you are blue in a big red area. Yes, it is daunting, but not impossible!

As Saint Yogi B said, "It ain't over till it's over!". owerfist:

Well did jst have the 4th Women's March!
The first one I missed. I avoid icy snowing conditions as much as possible after an ice accident threw me out of work for 6 months decades back and snowing started around the marching part. I have to look them up.

I think once the weather get better in the North East in the Spring things will get going. Pretty sure Move On will organize something as well.
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Eh, that was supposed to be
owerfist:

OK It won't give me it as is soooo

: powerfist:

There we go.
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I’m curious on Headaches tease which Dem candidate could have the bad week (realize it could be all)
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I would love it if a whole bunch of reporters who are cordoned off from talking to the Senators coming in/going out of the trial in the corridors of the building tossed down whatever barriers are there and go after them.
Fuck this semi-authoritarian information diminishment! : powerfist: ()
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I’m curious on Headaches tease which Dem candidate could have the bad week (realize it could be all)
I could tell, but I won't
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US Politics XVIII: the illegitimate partisan sham thread

Two Dems who probably who’s week is off to a good start: Warren and Klobuchar.

The NYT endorsed both of them in the primary.

Kind of having it both ways, but i take their points.

On paper, the one who can win is Klobuchar. But, I get it, intangibles.
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Old 01-20-2020, 05:04 AM   #413
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Don't think a NYT endorsement counts for much - particularly these days.
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Don't think a NYT endorsement counts for much - particularly these days.


It’s almost a negative.
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CNN called it “potentially meaningful” lol
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So the core of Trump's impeachment defense is said to be that abuse of power is not an impeachable offense. And Dershowitz is going to have an argument somehow based on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson.
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In 1998 Dershowitz said impeachment doesn't require a crime. Flip flop
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Could you imagine if a bunch of minorities showed up to a state capital protest with guns over their shoulders???
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Could you imagine if a bunch of minorities showed up to a state capital protest with guns over their shoulders???


Exactly.

You don’t see the deplorables arguing in favour of open carry in Harlem...because they’d shit their pants at the mere thought of it.
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Could you imagine if a bunch of minorities showed up to a state capital protest with guns over their shoulders???
Oh please , virtue signal much? 🙄

The point is, there are over 300 million lawful gun owners in America. If they were committing crimes with their guns, you would know it.

Take the guns away from the criminals, not the law abiding citizens.
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